Official 2011 Camaro Convertible Press Release - WITH COMPLETE SPECS!
#16
Re: Offical 2011 Camaro Convertible Press Release - WITH COMPLETE SPECS!
It looks great and GM seems to have spent a lot of time and money to make the convert feel like the coupe. I love the rear spoiler and think it should find its way to the coupe. The CHMSL and shark fin retract from the cars clean lines and looked like add-ons in some early photos but it all looks a lot better as a finished product.
This Convert also looks amazing with top up or down and I was worried about the top up looks would ruin the very sleek styling of this car. GM Design did an excellent job. Styling seems to be one of the top reasons people have been buying this car and the convert will not lose any sales.
That said there are a few eyebrow raising stats and specs to this car. The 200lb+ curb weight Elephant in the room is a bit shocking. Especially since one of the reasons GM gave for the high curb weight was overall Zeta stiffness which would make one think the convert wouldn’t need as much bracing. I don't think it’s a big deal for the convert because performance is always secondary but the convert isn't going to run like the coupe. Not unless GM bumps up HP/tq for the L99/LS3 as has been rumored. 25hp may be necessary. And the overall idea of a $40k 2-ton V8 Camaro convert is gonna take some getting used to. I think any Camaro enthusiast realizes what these milestones mean.
This Convert also looks amazing with top up or down and I was worried about the top up looks would ruin the very sleek styling of this car. GM Design did an excellent job. Styling seems to be one of the top reasons people have been buying this car and the convert will not lose any sales.
That said there are a few eyebrow raising stats and specs to this car. The 200lb+ curb weight Elephant in the room is a bit shocking. Especially since one of the reasons GM gave for the high curb weight was overall Zeta stiffness which would make one think the convert wouldn’t need as much bracing. I don't think it’s a big deal for the convert because performance is always secondary but the convert isn't going to run like the coupe. Not unless GM bumps up HP/tq for the L99/LS3 as has been rumored. 25hp may be necessary. And the overall idea of a $40k 2-ton V8 Camaro convert is gonna take some getting used to. I think any Camaro enthusiast realizes what these milestones mean.
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#19
Re: Offical 2011 Camaro Convertible Press Release - WITH COMPLETE SPECS!
What is the purpose of this message board then? To just blindly praise GM and love everything they do to the Camaro?
I did not post here to "ruin this thread". I am a Camaro enthusiast and I take offense to my post being deleted.
Regards,
Colin
#22
Re: Official 2011 Camaro Convertible Press Release - WITH COMPLETE SPECS!
LA Autoshow - official unveiling -
am/fm antenna in spoiler std in SS available in LT with RS
trunk lock cyl inside
fixed rear seat
rear windows go down
molded in color door sills
7th speaker added (8" subwoofer)
Canvas top....less fading & more durable. Made in Bowling Green, same company as vette.
no ribs showing, still a coupe-like design
Coupe-like driving feel, with suspension & body supports. Performance times .2 seconds within coupe specs.
top has acustic panels for a quiet ride.
Production early January - shipping late January
NOV 18th FIRST DATE TO ORDER SOLD ORDERS! Must have allocation to get an order built - Through March....After March orders will be for 2012 units.
No LS
ALL have back up assist
Single handle release, like Corvette
Top Cover included with 2LT & 2SS
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SPECIAL EDITION CAMARO'S:
Synergy: 2LT, 2SS RS - VR, CGM, White, Black.
Red stitching, unique striping
Q1 availability for ordering - Coupe or convertible
__________________________________________________ ____
XM Appearence:
Lip spoiler
1LT coupe only - IBM, Black, or CGM
Spring of 2011
_______________________________________________
Z28? No Comment
_______________________________________________
am/fm antenna in spoiler std in SS available in LT with RS
trunk lock cyl inside
fixed rear seat
rear windows go down
molded in color door sills
7th speaker added (8" subwoofer)
Canvas top....less fading & more durable. Made in Bowling Green, same company as vette.
no ribs showing, still a coupe-like design
Coupe-like driving feel, with suspension & body supports. Performance times .2 seconds within coupe specs.
top has acustic panels for a quiet ride.
Production early January - shipping late January
NOV 18th FIRST DATE TO ORDER SOLD ORDERS! Must have allocation to get an order built - Through March....After March orders will be for 2012 units.
No LS
ALL have back up assist
Single handle release, like Corvette
Top Cover included with 2LT & 2SS
__________________________________________________ ____
SPECIAL EDITION CAMARO'S:
Synergy: 2LT, 2SS RS - VR, CGM, White, Black.
Red stitching, unique striping
Q1 availability for ordering - Coupe or convertible
__________________________________________________ ____
XM Appearence:
Lip spoiler
1LT coupe only - IBM, Black, or CGM
Spring of 2011
_______________________________________________
Z28? No Comment
_______________________________________________
#23
Re: Offical 2011 Camaro Convertible Press Release - WITH COMPLETE SPECS!
It looks great and GM seems to have spent a lot of time and money to make the convert feel like the coupe. I love the rear spoiler and think it should find its way to the coupe. The CHMSL and shark fin retract from the cars clean lines and looked like add-ons in some early photos but it all looks a lot better as a finished product.
This Convert also looks amazing with top up or down and I was worried about the top up looks would ruin the very sleek styling of this car. GM Design did an excellent job. Styling seems to be one of the top reasons people have been buying this car and the convert will not lose any sales.
That said there are a few eyebrow raising stats and specs to this car. The 200lb+ curb weight Elephant in the room is a bit shocking. Especially since one of the reasons GM gave for the high curb weight was overall Zeta stiffness which would make one think the convert wouldn’t need as much bracing. I don't think it’s a big deal for the convert because performance is always secondary but the convert isn't going to run like the coupe. Not unless GM bumps up HP/tq for the L99/LS3 as has been rumored. 25hp may be necessary. And the overall idea of a $40k 2-ton V8 Camaro convert is gonna take some getting used to. I think any Camaro enthusiast realizes what these milestones mean.
This Convert also looks amazing with top up or down and I was worried about the top up looks would ruin the very sleek styling of this car. GM Design did an excellent job. Styling seems to be one of the top reasons people have been buying this car and the convert will not lose any sales.
That said there are a few eyebrow raising stats and specs to this car. The 200lb+ curb weight Elephant in the room is a bit shocking. Especially since one of the reasons GM gave for the high curb weight was overall Zeta stiffness which would make one think the convert wouldn’t need as much bracing. I don't think it’s a big deal for the convert because performance is always secondary but the convert isn't going to run like the coupe. Not unless GM bumps up HP/tq for the L99/LS3 as has been rumored. 25hp may be necessary. And the overall idea of a $40k 2-ton V8 Camaro convert is gonna take some getting used to. I think any Camaro enthusiast realizes what these milestones mean.
I suppose it's all a matter of what you are looking for.
#24
Re: Official 2011 Camaro Convertible Press Release - WITH COMPLETE SPECS!
Mustang comes out cheaper on the V8s, though. The Mustang GT Premium costs about the same as the 1SS.
#25
Re: Official 2011 Camaro Convertible Press Release - WITH COMPLETE SPECS!
On the V6 side they are pretty even. The V6 Camaro starts at a couple of grand more than a base Mustang convertible, but it's actually a little less than the Mustang Premium convertible. Mainly this is due to Chevy skipping a "base" (LS) Camaro convertible.
Mustang comes out cheaper on the V8s, though. The Mustang GT Premium costs about the same as the 1SS.
Mustang comes out cheaper on the V8s, though. The Mustang GT Premium costs about the same as the 1SS.
#26
Re: Official 2011 Camaro Convertible Press Release - WITH COMPLETE SPECS!
Yeah... I wonder how much of that is real body flex and how much is the softened up suspension. Poor shock valving especially can make seem like flex in the chassis when in fact it isn't... the 4th Gen Fcar is a perfect example of this.
#27
Re: Official 2011 Camaro Convertible Press Release - WITH COMPLETE SPECS!
ive heard from quite a few people saying that the mustangs chassis is very weak and "flexy". and this was on the coupe. i also saw an article on the vert and it was talking about the chassis movement and how bad it was.
its good to see that chevy has done research on this to make the camaro more rigid.
its good to see that chevy has done research on this to make the camaro more rigid.
#28
Re: Official 2011 Camaro Convertible Press Release - WITH COMPLETE SPECS!
ive heard from quite a few people saying that the mustangs chassis is very weak and "flexy". and this was on the coupe. i also saw an article on the vert and it was talking about the chassis movement and how bad it was.
its good to see that chevy has done research on this to make the camaro more rigid.
its good to see that chevy has done research on this to make the camaro more rigid.
The butt-dyno and the butt-chassis-flex-o-meter are not really scientific instruments. I'm not saying that there isn't any flex at all in the Mustang chassis, but I wonder how much of it is exaggerated.
That being said, the Camaro has a competent chassis in coupe form and it looks like it will in convertible form as well.
#29
Re: Official 2011 Camaro Convertible Press Release - WITH COMPLETE SPECS!
Feel is the deal, but flex is pretty easy to note if you drive one wheel up on a curb and note the body panel spacing changes... or lack of any.