Don't want to argue about it, or can't factually back up your claim that he is wrong?

Bob

 

I don't think it can be proven factually, considering that a portion of it would be based on opinion.

This one won't wind up like the previous one. Let's stay on topic.

 

Ok.

I'll stick with my original: The 1LE. Might sound a bit odd as I am certainly drag-race oriented, but I'd end up changing the suspension things anyway....I'll looking for light.

Can't hurt to dream and wish.
Bob

 

Then you might like my second creation for the 3rd year of production.

#2 Camaro SSI INDY This car would have the beefy V8 but retain an enhanced "super-handling" package including the split rear axle. The car would have a stout 1/4 mile setup, but would also be setup for sustained high speeds on a larger curve race courses like those on the Indy/Champ car circuits. More versatile than the SSD, but not as extreme on the 1/4. This would be the all-American road racer. The name says it all.


The last car on the list appearing in the 4-5th year of production:

#3 Camaro SSF F1 By the 5th year of production Camaro will be facing vicious competition from those carmakers enraged that their overpriced cars have come under attack. This Camaro, built to handle like no other could be powered by a turbocharged DOHC six or a supercharged V8. It may even have an all-new V8 (there is one in the works). Key here would be suspension though. Camaro would have to lose weight, have super-quick ratio lightweight steering and have sticky wide tires. It would do hairpins well and leave the under $130,000 Europeans in the dust. This Camaro should not come cheap.

 

I would like a bumble bee edition that really transforms. price it around 20k and i think it would be a winner!

seriously though, I just want a z/28 signed by red planet

 

A special edition for families would be nice. A lot of people can't afford a top of the line performance car, or their spouse doesn't want one so they look elsewhere.

I think a special version targeted toward the family guy or gal that wants the sporty look, the Camaro "aura", the ability to modify it later, as in 10 years later, but right now needs to keep the spouse happy, the payments low, amd needs to be able to haul around a car seat and groceries.

Performance cars have taditionally offered an "entry model" for a low end six cylinder version version of the car a person really wants.

Don't do that.

Make the low end version a car that people want instead of representing what they can't have...

Have a Camaro logo on the car seat for an upgrade, a "family" car option package with car matts, parking lot trim for the doors, maybe a dealer installed courtesy light or two to help pick things up off the floor in the back seat for when your kid throws stuff around...

Make the least expensive model exciting. Ford has done a good job selling the ladies on six cylinder Mustangs. The Camaro has a much better sounding name for females and regardless of what you do with the "economy" version the hardcore enthustiast with enough money will still buy the top end models.

The goal is to make the camaro a profit center instead of a marketing cost center. Sell the value and sell it to the ladies and families. That is what will keep the Camaro alive and profitable so us performance enthusiasts can buy the performance models.

 

I can afford any damn factory mustang they build until the dealer marks them up above MSRP.......and I REFUSE to pay that price!!!!!! Hopefully camaro buyers are not as stupid as mustang buyers (excuse me....I mean mustang collectors......)
The collectors don't seem to understand that the value of their collection does not go up when all of the vehicles originally built stay in collections. They only way the value goes up is when the vehicles are no longer available due to being driven, crashed, stolen etc (as we did to all or our late 60's muscle cars). Add the price of storage, insurance, buyer/seller fees etc. and you will find out the the current mustang GT500 cars are NOT a good investment.

 

It is all supply and demand. Just too many time they supply too many for the demand there is. The 1978 Vette pace car is a great example where over 6,000 were built to supply one per dealer. Well for limited special editions this was way too many. 650 would have been a great number for collectors.

As a whole most limited editions are not good collector cars unless there is few of them and something that really makes them special other than paint and stickers. In many cases cars in general are not great investments except for some models and how they were optioned. Many times the cars that are worth something today were either too expensive or no one liked them back in the 60's and 70's. The Hemi Cuda and Daytona were great examples of too expensive or too ugly [at least back then].

 

I like this idea alot - an uplevel model that will run with the M6

 

This question is an easy one.; First off it has to have 541 hp,or more(because the Mustang GT500KR has 540 hp), a supercharger would be awesome and sounds fantastic! A few gear ratios to choose from. Not all of us want to go 180 mph (unless it's in a qtr.mile). no a/c, if I want cool air I'll stick my head in the freezer; I'd rather save the weight. Manual trans.(obviously!!) Big *** tires( 325's or bigger in back, 255's in front) to give it that funnycar look. Finally, the color. Orange with white stripes with a white or orange interior would be a first choice. Second would be Blue with silver stripes and a gray interior.Third Red with silver stripes and gray interior.

 

That is a very nice post and accurate as well!!!

 

I forget who said it, but someone mentioned that raptors (predatory birds like hawks and eagles) eat snakes. That got me thinking.....what other animals eat snakes?

I came up with Camaro Mongoose- name sounds kinda stupid, but it would apply very well, I think - the mongoose is a quick and agile mortal enemy of the cobra, and from what I understand, they win against cobras pretty often, and that's the image most people would conjure up when they think of a mongoose. Come to think of it, it's not that bad of a name. Chevrolet Camaro Mongoose. It's got a ring to it.

Other predators are mostly birds, like owls, some other snakes (can't use that, though), bobcats and other wild cats, etc. Mongoose seems to be the best idea to me.

 

I would like to see a turbocharged DOHC V6 option making over 450 from the factory. It would perform better than a V8, weigh less, handle better, and on top of all that would get better gas mileage. I'm thinking the 89 Turbo TA would be the closest production vehicle that I could think of that GM has produced to this. Yes I know the Turbo TA wasn't DOHC, I mean the concept of a turbo V6 using the new high tech motors would be outrageous power in a smaller package with better mileage.

 

I'm not so sure a DOHC turbo V6 would weigh less than a pushrod V8. Also, pushrod engines are known for being smaller packages than OHC motors. Just look at Ford's modular 4.6L engines vs. GM's LSx engines. Throw in turbo piping and whatnot, and the turbo DOHC V6 wouldn't be any smaller than a V8, which would probably have more torque to boot.

 

But the "Mongoose" was also a Plymouth bodied funny car driven by Tom McEwen.

Heck the "Mustang" is a wild pony right? We may as well call it the Camaro "Wrangler", or the Camaro "Cowboy" or the Camaro "Horse Whisperer" for that matter.