The Rise, The Fall, The REBIRTH!
02-01-2006 | 06:17 PM
#18
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Re: The Rise, The Fall, The REBIRTH!
Originally Posted by LXDTS
But despite the low power these are the years that the Camaro killed the Mustang in sales.
In fact '79 was the highest ever selling year for the Camaro with roughly 282,571 produced and sold.
In fact '79 was the highest ever selling year for the Camaro with roughly 282,571 produced and sold.
2nd gen Camaro outsold Mustang ONLY in '76 (by just 5,000), '77 (by a much more respectible 38,000), & '78 (by a humiliating 60,000 cars). The following year, Ford returned the favor by absolutely smoking Camaro by a mind-numbing 100,0000 Mustang sales over Camaro.
Outside of those years, Camaro outsold Mustang in '71 (by a mere 400 cars!), and in '82, '83, '84, & '85 by varying amounts.
1986 was the last year Camaro was even close (4,000 down).
1987 was the last year (save '94) that Camaro even sold 6 digits (but still 55K less than Mustang).
1996 was the 1st year Mustang outsold Camaro 2 to 1.
1999 it grew to 4 to 1.
And that's not the worst of it.
In 2002, there were 35,767 Corvettes made.
Despite having a production year extended by 3 months over all 2002 models, there were a mere 29,528 Camaros.
Corvette outsold Camaro (yes, I mean ALL Camaros combined) by over 6,000 cars!
Here ya go:
http://members.aol.com/speedbbb/must...sales-data.htm
Last edited by guionM; 02-01-2006 at 06:25 PM.
02-01-2006 | 11:33 PM
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Re: The Rise, The Fall, The REBIRTH!
Originally Posted by guionM
There were 204,742 Camaros sold in 1979, but Ford still sold 304,053 Mustangs that year.... and that wasn't Mustang's biggest year! Sonic's not the only one needing some educating, I see.
2nd gen Camaro outsold Mustang ONLY in '76 (by just 5,000), '77 (by a much more respectible 38,000), & '78 (by a humiliating 60,000 cars). The following year, Ford returned the favor by absolutely smoking Camaro by a mind-numbing 100,0000 Mustang sales over Camaro.
Outside of those years, Camaro outsold Mustang in '71 (by a mere 400 cars!), and in '82, '83, '84, & '85 by varying amounts.
1986 was the last year Camaro was even close (4,000 down).
1987 was the last year (save '94) that Camaro even sold 6 digits (but still 55K less than Mustang).
1996 was the 1st year Mustang outsold Camaro 2 to 1.
1999 it grew to 4 to 1.
And that's not the worst of it.
In 2002, there were 35,767 Corvettes made.
Despite having a production year extended by 3 months over all 2002 models, there were a mere 29,528 Camaros.
Corvette outsold Camaro (yes, I mean ALL Camaros combined) by over 6,000 cars!
Here ya go:
http://members.aol.com/speedbbb/must...sales-data.htm
2nd gen Camaro outsold Mustang ONLY in '76 (by just 5,000), '77 (by a much more respectible 38,000), & '78 (by a humiliating 60,000 cars). The following year, Ford returned the favor by absolutely smoking Camaro by a mind-numbing 100,0000 Mustang sales over Camaro.
Outside of those years, Camaro outsold Mustang in '71 (by a mere 400 cars!), and in '82, '83, '84, & '85 by varying amounts.
1986 was the last year Camaro was even close (4,000 down).
1987 was the last year (save '94) that Camaro even sold 6 digits (but still 55K less than Mustang).
1996 was the 1st year Mustang outsold Camaro 2 to 1.
1999 it grew to 4 to 1.
And that's not the worst of it.
In 2002, there were 35,767 Corvettes made.
Despite having a production year extended by 3 months over all 2002 models, there were a mere 29,528 Camaros.
Corvette outsold Camaro (yes, I mean ALL Camaros combined) by over 6,000 cars!
Here ya go:
http://members.aol.com/speedbbb/must...sales-data.htm
I have 29,009 Camaros in 2001 which was less than Corvette Sales by about 6000 cars.
edit: mine are production numbers those are sales numbers
Last edited by detltu; 02-01-2006 at 11:35 PM.
02-01-2006 | 11:52 PM
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Re: The Rise, The Fall, The REBIRTH!
sad that mustangs have always outsold camaro's and such... ever since I was 2 I'v loved the camaro's/firebirds I just turned 17 recently and am getting a 99 camaro z28 hopefully screw mustangs nice car but overrated way to much
02-02-2006 | 01:35 AM
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Re: The Rise, The Fall, The REBIRTH!
Originally Posted by guionM
1987 was the last year (save '94) that Camaro even sold 6 digits (but still 55K less than Mustang).[/url]
Last edited by IZ28; 02-02-2006 at 01:41 AM.
02-02-2006 | 12:20 PM
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Re: The Rise, The Fall, The REBIRTH!
Originally Posted by SGT Posaune
I loved this part...
"That means that even if you brake-torqued a brand-new 1981 Camaro Z28 and floored it from a traffic light, your grandma could whip your *** in a stock 2006 Honda Civic LX sedan with an automatic transmission"
"That means that even if you brake-torqued a brand-new 1981 Camaro Z28 and floored it from a traffic light, your grandma could whip your *** in a stock 2006 Honda Civic LX sedan with an automatic transmission"
02-02-2006 | 01:51 PM
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Re: The Rise, The Fall, The REBIRTH!
Originally Posted by Eric77TA
But if it was 81, Grandma would have been in a 55 horsepower 2 speed auto Civic - so you still would have been king of the road in your Camaro
02-02-2006 | 03:17 PM
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Re: The Rise, The Fall, The REBIRTH!
Originally Posted by guionM
There were 204,742 Camaros sold in 1979, but Ford still sold 304,053 Mustangs that year.... and that wasn't Mustang's biggest year! Sonic's not the only one needing some educating, I see.
2nd gen Camaro outsold Mustang ONLY in '76 (by just 5,000), '77 (by a much more respectible 38,000), & '78 (by a humiliating 60,000 cars). The following year, Ford returned the favor by absolutely smoking Camaro by a mind-numbing 100,0000 Mustang sales over Camaro.
Outside of those years, Camaro outsold Mustang in '71 (by a mere 400 cars!), and in '82, '83, '84, & '85 by varying amounts.
1986 was the last year Camaro was even close (4,000 down).
1987 was the last year (save '94) that Camaro even sold 6 digits (but still 55K less than Mustang).
1996 was the 1st year Mustang outsold Camaro 2 to 1.
1999 it grew to 4 to 1.
And that's not the worst of it.
In 2002, there were 35,767 Corvettes made.
Despite having a production year extended by 3 months over all 2002 models, there were a mere 29,528 Camaros.
Corvette outsold Camaro (yes, I mean ALL Camaros combined) by over 6,000 cars!
Here ya go:
http://members.aol.com/speedbbb/must...sales-data.htm
2nd gen Camaro outsold Mustang ONLY in '76 (by just 5,000), '77 (by a much more respectible 38,000), & '78 (by a humiliating 60,000 cars). The following year, Ford returned the favor by absolutely smoking Camaro by a mind-numbing 100,0000 Mustang sales over Camaro.
Outside of those years, Camaro outsold Mustang in '71 (by a mere 400 cars!), and in '82, '83, '84, & '85 by varying amounts.
1986 was the last year Camaro was even close (4,000 down).
1987 was the last year (save '94) that Camaro even sold 6 digits (but still 55K less than Mustang).
1996 was the 1st year Mustang outsold Camaro 2 to 1.
1999 it grew to 4 to 1.
And that's not the worst of it.
In 2002, there were 35,767 Corvettes made.
Despite having a production year extended by 3 months over all 2002 models, there were a mere 29,528 Camaros.
Corvette outsold Camaro (yes, I mean ALL Camaros combined) by over 6,000 cars!
Here ya go:
http://members.aol.com/speedbbb/must...sales-data.htm
EDIT: Nevermind, I misread.
02-02-2006 | 09:14 PM
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Re: The Rise, The Fall, The REBIRTH!
Of course there's always the argument that Firebird and Camaro actually competed with each other more than the Mustang for sales. Aside from cosmetic differences, by the third gen the cars were so very close that it's hard to tell them apart.
And so goes the argument that you could combine Firebird and Camaro sales vs. the Mustang from at least that point.
It will be interesting to see how well the 5th gen Camaro will stand by itself.
And so goes the argument that you could combine Firebird and Camaro sales vs. the Mustang from at least that point.
It will be interesting to see how well the 5th gen Camaro will stand by itself.
02-04-2006 | 11:14 PM
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Re: The Rise, The Fall, The REBIRTH!
Originally Posted by Sonic5395
This may have been posted somewhere already and if so just delete this post. But if not, I found this on ESPN....nice little story about the History of the Camaro.
http://autobytel.espn.go.com/content...cle_id_int/988
http://autobytel.espn.go.com/content...cle_id_int/988
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