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Old 08-06-2008 | 11:55 PM
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I just got through watching the show (DVR'd), thought it was pretty cool! The Camaro segment brought a big smile to my face!
Old 08-07-2008 | 12:00 AM
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You can't argue against it.. they were cheap as hell. It made me feel like I was in my Power Wheels again when I had my 4th gen.
meh.

i still think the firebird interior is nice.

and i still think the 93-96 camaro interior is a great design but terrible overuse of plastic. and the doors are boring. the 97+ went all out boring with slightly higher quality materials/fit/finish.

the off the shelf hvac/radio are complaint worthy i suppose.

my only real complaints are the rattles. everything rattles. the dash, the windows when theyre down, etc.

the third gens arent anything to write home about.
Old 08-07-2008 | 12:58 AM
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Just watched the show and my favorite part was Ed Welburn responding to the question, "did GM take too long getting to market with the Camaro?" His response, we had to get it right and we did. Not sure of the exact quotes but the key point is getting it right. I will buy this car and I will bet GM will do very well because they are taking the time to do things right these days. I drove the new Malibu at work the other day and what a great car. It made me excited to see what the Camaro will feel like when I see it and drive it.
Old 08-07-2008 | 01:12 AM
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..my buddy had a new 93 camaro and with the air blower on high it made so much rattle noise out of the vents you had to have the stereo volume way up...i never even considered a chevy after that...those interiors were junk and to understand how junk all you had to do was go sit inside a japanese car.GM's current troubles have been in the works for years....until GM figures out that they do not know whats best for the consumer they will have there problems...GM curently has 2 winners...cts and malibu..lets hope camaro is on that list..
Old 08-07-2008 | 01:37 AM
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I would add the GMT-900 (at least the Tahoe) to that list. I am quite pleased with it!
Old 08-07-2008 | 02:47 AM
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I just saw the program at 1am. It was great, especially the Camaro part. The Malibu really is all it was cracked up to be and then some. I still love mine like the day I got it and its been 6 months already. The dated models need their MCE's or replacements and I think GM will be in great shape as far as product offerings go.
Old 08-07-2008 | 08:27 AM
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I didn't catch that show but did see the NBC national news last night. Did a story on how GM cars are the new status symbols in China in the following order: Cadillac>Buick>Chevrolet (the more things change, the more they stay the same). Said GM MADE 1 billion in that market last year.
The part the made me snicker, for good not bad, was when they interviewed and up and coming Chinese man about why he was looking to buy a Chevrolet, "Because Chevrolet means quality." Take that Toyota!!!
Old 08-07-2008 | 08:56 AM
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I liked the program. I did notice they kept showing the third gen interior when they talked about poor quality. Looked just like my interior only in better condition. It kind of sounded like Dale Jr was saying that the body roll was a good thing. I'm sure thats not what he meant but it confused me for a second. I'll probably watch it again later.
Old 08-07-2008 | 10:28 AM
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It kind of sounded like Dale Jr was saying that the body roll was a good thing. I'm sure thats not what he meant but it confused me for a second. I'll probably watch it again later.
I noticed that. I didn't quite understand that either.
Old 08-07-2008 | 10:48 AM
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Honestly back in 1996 when I bought my Trans Am, the interiors of most other cars I remember were far from good. The 4th gens interior may not be the best but it still looks somewhat modern, has held up well for me with the exception of the driver side window and lock buttons. Personally I really like the way it's all laid out as well, comfortable and easy to use. I am biased I suppose, but I think they coulda found alot of other GM cars that had far worse interiors, even some of the Caddies from the 90's were pretty bad.
Old 08-07-2008 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by detltu
It kind of sounded like Dale Jr was saying that the body roll was a good thing. I'm sure thats not what he meant but it confused me for a second. I'll probably watch it again later.
I wish they hadn't played that part because people hear it wrong and assume that it would somehow carry to production. To clarify from an earlier thread...

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That's why he was driving the car and the car he was driving was a test mule...to take care of things that were mentioned. It was also mentioned that he was among the first to drive it. It must have been early in the mule testing phase.

I can say without a shred of doubt that when the car was being developed, if comment like that was even mumbled in passing, it would be investigated thoroughly. If things like that were selectively ignored, the car would have probably been in the showrooms sooner. Chevrolet won't let things like that ...be something they hope no one notices..
Consider that the hour-long show was called "Saving GM" and they dedicated quite a bit of time on the Camaro alone. That, IMO, is an accurate representation of how much focus GM is putting on the success of this car. They are not compromising anything.
Old 08-07-2008 | 11:17 AM
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I thought it was a good show. Kudos to GM for giving them unprecedented access, and not forcing CNBC to ask fluff questions of Wagoner and Lutz.
Old 08-07-2008 | 11:29 AM
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The stressed the fact that the height is 58.3" tall ??? Please tell me that this is an error.... I know the spec sheet says 54.2" .....
Old 08-07-2008 | 11:34 AM
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The stressed the fact that the height is 58.3" tall ??? Please tell me that this is an error.... I know the spec sheet says 54.2" .....
You are right about the spec sheet. Could be an error, that part might have been recorded several months ago. At first I was thinking perhaps the suspension options might make the overall height fluctuate but 4 inches? No way. I would believe the spec sheet over the TV show myself...but there might be a bit of hopeful thinking in there as well.
Old 08-07-2008 | 11:34 AM
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I'd go with the spec sheet.



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