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Old 06-02-2006, 07:11 PM
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Solstice sized Firebird\T/A

Would anyone be interested in seeing Pontiac replace the Solstice with a firebird or TA? Same platform, similiar pricing, maybe more firebird cues designed in. Possibly squeeze a small v8 under the hood.
The name would return but knowlonger a stablemate to the camaro or compete with camaro for sales.
Would the firebird fans support this vehicle or not buy and complain as was with the 04-06 GTO?
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According to G&C that the GTO is going away & something is going to be the new sister to the Camaro.
Now if thats a TA or Firebird I dont know. Still hanging on to the rumors.
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I would support the building of a Firebird/TA, but not at the expense of the Solstice. The Solstice is a unique vehicle that will have some very amazing performance potential once the "tuners" get ahold of them.
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I would support the building of a Firebird/TA, but not at the expense of the Solstice. The Solstice is a unique vehicle that will have some very amazing performance potential once the "tuners" get ahold of them.
The TUNERS have already gotten their hands on them. They are shoving the LS2s under the hoods & making them Scoot really fast.
Next thing is the Turbo or the Supercharged
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Re: Solstice sized Firebird\T/A

GTO is staying.
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Originally Posted by MarcR94v6
GTO is staying.
Pontiac plan
GM officials will unveil a rwd concept vehicle for Pontiac at the 2007 Detroit auto show. To revive the brand, GM also is considering:

- Fielding a lineup of all rwd cars

- Replacing the Grand Prix with a higher-priced sedan

- Replacing the GTO with a vehicle built on Camaro architecture

DETROIT -- After debating Pontiac's viability this year, General Motors' leadership plans to revive the brand's heritage of performance with a product lineup of exclusively rear-wheel-drive cars.
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GTO is staying according to all the rumors and Bob Lutz, not to mention this email I recieved from Jim Hopson of Pontiac when I asked him about Firebird rumors.

Nick,

You're correct. To the best of my knowledge, there are no plans to bring
back the Firebird, even if the Camaro goes into production. More likely is
the creation of a different car off the same platform, which would most likely be a next-generation GTO.
So this is how I see he lineup for Pontiac in 09-10

Solstice
G5
G6
G8
GTO
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See, the problem here is that in 1974 the Pontiac Grand Prix was the replacement for the GTO. The GTO is a high performance family car and always was. Firebird was a 2+2 sports car. Now if you could stretch a Solstice into a 2+2 sports car and give it a V8 and mean looks, absolutely, go for it.

But the reality is that the Firebird is an upmarket Camaro. More leather, more options, and meaner styling. The GTO is NOT a Firebird, never was, not even close.

GM would do well to copy Chrysler's Charger concept for the next GTO instead of trying to pretend that it could ever be a Firebird.
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A smaller-than-Corvette Firebird with a V8. It would never happen, but I'd definitely be interested.

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NO!
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Re: Solstice sized Firebird\T/A

Originally Posted by Dwarf Killer
See, the problem here is that in 1974 the Pontiac Grand Prix was the replacement for the GTO. The GTO is a high performance family car and always was. Firebird was a 2+2 sports car. Now if you could stretch a Solstice into a 2+2 sports car and give it a V8 and mean looks, absolutely, go for it.

But the reality is that the Firebird is an upmarket Camaro. More leather, more options, and meaner styling. The GTO is NOT a Firebird, never was, not even close.

GM would do well to copy Chrysler's Charger concept for the next GTO instead of trying to pretend that it could ever be a Firebird.
There is much sense to this post. Unfortunately in GM's eyes, there is no business case for the Firebird, even though there is apparently one for the G5.
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actually yes.. aslong as a 6 speed manual, Targa. possibly turbo v6?
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GTO isn't going away, Lutz has already said there will be a new one.

I'd like to see a Kappa coupe. As long as it looks cool I don't care what it is called.
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just say no to firebird
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Re: Solstice sized Firebird\T/A

Originally Posted by 2000GTP
I would support the building of a Firebird/TA, but not at the expense of the Solstice. The Solstice is a unique vehicle that will have some very amazing performance potential once the "tuners" get ahold of them.
The solstice is a completely different targeted customer. Not ment to be in the same catagory. So replacing it with a firebird wouldnt make sense. Thats like replacing the Miata for an RX8.
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