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Old 12-08-2005 | 05:34 AM
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The vents are too low and so is the interior door handle. It reminds me of the previous Mustang. Putting the door handle above the armrest is way more intuitive and easier to locate. The center or the dash is too BLAND. Move those center vents up to where the orange piece is and put a navigation or radio below that. Put the HVAC controls below the radio/nav. A big NO to the two gauges behind the steering wheel as it looks distasteful and ruins the rest of the design.

The four bucket seats with color stitching and integrated head rest looks awesome. Please do make the production seats like that, especially the headrest. I hope those wheels make it to production, I like the recessed look of them, very agressive, but in 18", of course. I hope they fill in the wheel well. Because if they don't and the ones on the concept are 20"+, I guess we are going to see smaller wheel openings with the flares being lower. That would lose a lot of this clay's aggressive predatory stance.

The grille/headlamp area doesn't look right, like if the lamps are crushed. The taillamps don't look quite right either, if it must be some sort of sharp angled look, then how about a taillamp shaped like a stop sign but widened. The trailing edge of the trunk seems high already, I guess a ducktail spoiler would need to be short. I also noticed that the rear fascia is like the Vette now, all one piece.

I love the flares, I love the body character lines/creases. Has a nice crisp look to it. Wait til the sunlight hits it at a certain angle!! Green house is great! Proportions and overhangs are good also. I also notice the trunk and hood flares up to meet the edges of the qtr panel and fenders, like the vette's, giving it a sharkish appearance. The rear bumper is blacked out on the bottom and rakes upward to lessen the thick bulky look of the bumper, but I think there is a little too much blacking out. Maybe lower the bumper a couple of inches to give more room for the taillamps, then use less blacking of the bumper.

Just need to massage the face and taillamp on the exterior and please put more detail in the interior. I don't want to buy this car and wow people with the exterior but get a blank face when they sit in the car looking at the dash.

I don't mind if it's IRS, at least it won't have scary handling on mid-corner bumps!

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Old 12-08-2005 | 05:37 AM
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I agree on the seats and the wheels... Those wheels are awesome. With those wheels and the stance of the car, it looks like it's ready to kick some ***.

I like the car overall though, I hope they don't change too much in the overall scheme... other than adding in some interior elements and finalizing things.
Old 12-08-2005 | 05:45 AM
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I am sure glad that I am investing in upgrading my 93 Z-28. That picture of a future Camaro could scare a starving dog from a meat wagon. It does nothing for me. It has a Ford Mustang look in the rear quarter panel. I have no idea what that front end is. I believe the team that designed the Pontiac Aztec was outsourced to do this Camaro. Enough said!
Old 12-08-2005 | 06:42 AM
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i love it, can i put a down payment on one now i dont know if i can ask this, but what power plant is going in it at this point? if im not supposed to know thats fine, but the only dumb question is the one that isnt asked (if it was already stated, i didnt wanna read through 11 plus pages )
Old 12-08-2005 | 06:47 AM
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What really impresses about concept cars is the fitment of generally oversized wheels. I hope GM do not undersize the boots on the concept... unless it's the V6 version... which I really don't hold in high regard anyway... as the V6's aren't really for the true enthusiast.

Message to GM: Please retain the wheel diameter and fender clearances of the concept.

EDIT: Another thing... I hope that hood cowl is functional and not there primarily for cosmetic reasons.

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Old 12-08-2005 | 07:20 AM
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When I view the concept I also like to view it alongside the Mustang... bias aside, my mind definitely tells me the concept Camaro is far more attractive than the current Mustang. Well done GM... and thanks, too, to Ford for giving GM some direction!!!
Old 12-08-2005 | 07:51 AM
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Not to be the real downer here but I personally do not care for that concept much...at all. There were other renderings that I liked far more than this one. As some other said, I do hope that this is more of a publicity stunt and that the actual concept differs. The front and rear clips both need to change drastically in my opinion. The profile of the car is okay. In all I am surprised on how positive the reaction is here. I knew people would be excited that it is here, but that styling is by no means what I thought everyone would want.

Don't get me wrong, I am VERY glad to see that soemthing is actually being done with the new Camaro, but still.... IT IS UGLY!

GM: Please, no retro!
Old 12-08-2005 | 07:57 AM
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Standing behind the car and looking at the back end, I'm not a fan of the sides flaring up. I know youre trying to follow the lines of the taillights or maybe the taillights are following the lines of the flares. But either way, I think it would look better with equal size taillights ( same shape as now ) and a even flowing trunk lid. I do like the two seperate taillights, kind of like a vette but kind of not.

I really hope when it comes to production time the finished product is not too far from this concept design. This design screams MUSCLE.

And I really really hope there is a SS optioned Camaro and it would truly mean something more than a different hood and spoiler. I would love it for just the SS to carry a 427 inside of it and no other engine options for the SS. This way the SS line would really mean something.

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Old 12-08-2005 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Schismblade
I think the tail lights would look significantly better if they were more similar to Kris Horton's rendition.

http://www.carphotoalbums.com/photos...camaro03_z.jpg

YES!
Old 12-08-2005 | 08:20 AM
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I wish I had seen the pictures before they were taken down . I understand that GM doesn't want the pictures out but anything helps me to have a "renewed" faith in GM (I'm sure a few others feel this way also). I was really losing faith in GM's position after stopping production of the F-body and now stopping the GTO. The C6 did help my feelings (it is an awesome automobile) but I would consider it a "high end" buyer car compared to the F-body.

The pictures could have negative effects on some but I believe that most people that read this board (and other F-body websites) are relieved to see these. I'm sure curiosity levels are very high now..... who knows, the girlfriend says she wants a performance car and this might be the one .


Originally Posted by SSbaby
EDIT: Another thing... I hope that hood cowl is functional and not there primarily for cosmetic reasons.
It's to clear the factory supercharger .

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Old 12-08-2005 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by curly
I wish I had seen the pictures before they were taken down
https://www.camaroz28.com/index.shtml


Old 12-08-2005 | 08:26 AM
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I am a patient man.

When GM releases official pictures, I will enjoy!

Old 12-08-2005 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by I8COBRA
YES!
I am glad that it looks nothing like the Kris rendering because that car looks too similar to a Fiero.

I don't know if round lights would work on that car. I think the whole rear would have to be reworked for round tail lights to fit.
Old 12-08-2005 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Fbodfather
One last thing...the car is not retro.......it really isn't at all in person.
To me, it looks like it has a little bit of Cadillac A&S styling to it, so I may get there for the wrong reasons, but I agree with what you're saying here.

The first picture is also a "half & half", with one side of the car looking one way and the other looking another, and I haven't seen the other side yet.

Concerns:

1) The front and rear fascias, as I see them, are going to be problematic. The panel split for the front fender to front fascia is usually done more like the way Grand Prix does it with the fender meeting the headlamps.

The reason that I'm concerned is that it looks like the coach joint for the Corvette (where the rear quarter meets the rear fascia) and that always looks just terrible... it never looks like it fits right, no matter what.

2) The front passenger side foglamp looks like a Photoshop job, because if it isn't one... it's just awful. Hey... could they sink it?

3) I NEED TO SEE THE INTERIOR PICTURES!!!!

I'll see it in person soon enough, but boy howdy - to my untrained styling eye it looks like a winnar!
Old 12-08-2005 | 08:33 AM
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T tops or sunroof, I wonder what we get.



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