I think it's the actual concept with 1/2 photoshopped to show a different idea.

Drivers side = Concept. Passenger side = Photoshop.

Reasons:

1) Drivers side foglight is highly detailed. The Passengers side looks like it's pasted on there and I don't think they would go to all of the detail to make the Drivers side look good, but do such a ****ty job on the Passengers side.

2) Same thing on the Front Headlights.

3) Hood line on the Drivers side with shadows and everything looks right, Passengers looks "weird".

4) Same thing on Rear Facia.

5) The window glass. The Glass on the Drivers side looks "real". The glass on the passenger side looks again pasted or drawn on there.

So in my conclusion and I'll have to save it all till January is that the "Drivers side" is what we WILL see (short of minor changes) come NAIAS. The Passengers side? Well, I'll let you make the verdict on that...

 

I believe that in a couple years there will be a '97 Z28, '98 Hombre, and '99 Z28 for sale in my front yard....

Its exactly what I expected.

STRONG heritage cues but not a 2069 Camaro. Im in LOVE all over again!

 

I have a question for GM. Do they ever actually listen to what the people on all the Camaro boards say or do they just make what they want and tell us we better like it?
It seems GM was pissed the photo's got leaked. Well one, all publicity is good publicity and two if they listened to the customers wouldn't they want time to make changes before final production. Not wait until it's done and then have people complain about it when it's too late?
From working in a big bureaucratic company myself I think it's safe to say the big wigs in charge don't listen to the the little indians down at the bottom that might have good ideas.
Thats too bad, because the companines that use all their resources usually are best ones. Especially when you have a FREE resource like the internet.

This camaro is very similiar to the new retro mustang.(big surprise huh)
The good things(for selling, not for 'us') are it appears shorter and higher up. It's doesn't have that droppy sad eyes the mustang has(thank goodness) Perhaps you can sell a lot of v6 model to woman to make the numbers. I am sure that was the idea.
At this point there is nothing you can radically change to make it tons better.(not saying what you have is bad)
You've commited to a retro concept and you have to go with it.
The only thing is by the time it comes out the mustang will have been out in retro style for years and there is a good chance of the retro fad being on the downhill.
This would cause low sales and of course GM will blame the consumer and not understand why the car doesn't sell.
Good luck with your gamble. In the future you need to get the new trend to the market before or at the same time as the competition, not 4 years later.
While I see it competing with the charger, challenger and mustang I hope it's not heavy like those cars are the GTO.
Otherwise your going to have more growing pains as the EPA throws a fit about the gas mileage and tightens the standards.
Do yourself a favor and make it as light as possible, so you have a platform you can keep using when displacement on demand is the only way to pass EPA regulations.

I will greatly miss the t-tops which it appears will look ugly if attached to this car.

I would also start making better gears and other upgrades a very very cheap option. You know it doesn't cost more to put in 2.73's or 3.42's so don't charge us much more. GM needs to worry about market share at this point or toyota will kill you. If it comes in priced more then the mustang GT which for some reason I am sure it will, then GM will loose.
Forget employee pricing. GM needs 1969 pricing. Now there's an ad campaign. "In 1969 the performance axle was a $45 option. We'll today it is too!

 

i disagree with you that it doesnt scream "Camaro".. it has plenty of styling cues that clearly say "Camaro" to me..

but i agree that in past generations you saw a natural progression.. but here's how i look at it

1->2->3->4... break .. ,->5
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I guess it says Camaro but it really already looks old and I am not just saying that. There is nothing really special about it. Yeah, yeah, it's retro but the problem is, as we all know, the Mustang already did that so the wow factor of a retro-modern muscle car is gone. I thnk GM is wrong if they think people will be wowed by this Camaro the same way they were with the Mustang. It's already been done! Way to be a follower. All this does, with the help of the Challenger, is legitamize the Mustangs design.

Is this GM's way of getting a quick easy fix?

Edit: Another thing that kinda pisses me off is that by only including one generation's design, it is like saying that all the others don't really have anything worth keeping or building upon and that, to me, is a little insulting.

 

Instead of killing the firebird maybe they should take it the other way and have it be a future design.
That way people have a choice to go retro or go new.
And perhaps just once GM can start a trend and not follow it.

 

I love this car.

Unlike the Mustang, the proportions on this car are dead-on. I loved the Mustang's nose and stance up front -- but to me they concentrated on that and then cobbled together the rear. The rear-end on the Mustang is what throws the car out of proportion. And it's still too boxy for my tastes.

That said, the new Camaro has curves. I am seriously digging on those fender flares, especially the rear. I hope those remain and don't get toned down. In fact I think they could be accentuated even more. The creases/edges along the side of the car are hot, and I like the little indent along the rocker. Adds some drama to the side of the car.

Proportions are right. Long hood, short rear deck. Looks weighted towards the rear, accentuating the fact that it's RWD.

That front fascia is bad-***. I prefer the passenger side, the driver's side (from what I can make of it) looks toned down and warmed over. Blah. I see heritage cues, I don't see retro. This car needs to be recognized definitively as a Camaro, so you have to have some sort of nod to previous models. If GM was going to do a clean-sheet design they might as well given the car another name.

To me it looks like the front-end "brow" is furrowed, giving a mean, aggressive look. I love it.

Those wheels are hot. However, we'll probably get toned down versions of those too. I loved the wheels on the original SSR concept, and I applaud GM for sticking with the overall design, but the deep-dish look was marginalized.

The stance is perfect. It's hunkered down, yet balanced. From the 3 angles I've seen I can't find fault with it. I think the overall design of the rear is good, but like others I'd like to see something different with the taillights and the rear-exhaust exit. It's a modern rear fascia though, and I like that alot. I like the blacked out lower valance.

I'm really stoked about this car. It needs t-tops though; I hope GM gets it done. I'd like to see a red bowtie in the front grille. A good spoiler will help that rear-end out too.

Very well done. I think it's more exciting than the C5 when that first came out, and even more exciting than the C6 Z06. It's a modern take on the classic musclecar. I want a well thought-out, modern, and attractive interior to go with it. Not gonna judge based on the two drawings I saw.

 

Seriously. Think about it, the 69 body style sold so well that they had to extend production into 1970! Something about that car struck a chord with the public and it's not a surprise that they're trying to recapture the excitement that the original had. I don't care what anyone says, the car is going to look good and those pictures are probably edited to not give the car totally away. We'll find out in about a month though!

 

What???

This is the first Camaro concept I have ever seen that looks anything like a previous generation.

The only similarities between generations previously was the hood badge.

Corvette intentionally has carried cues from generation to generation, Camaro never has.

I dare somebody to point out the similarities styling-wise between an early F4 and an F1. Apart from the general layout of the car, there weren't any - and that's not a criticism, BTW - I think it was intentional.

 

Car looks good, my wish list:
Get rid of the scoop on the side and just make it smooth for my taste the scoop looks to much like a Mustang, without it the whole car looks more agressive.
A "1969" style rear spolier (as an option)
Needs big power as an option
Mike

 

Actually, Fisher Body had problems with the stamping dies for the rear quarter panels for the 1970 model, so it was decided to keep builing the '69 until the problem could be rectified. Nonetheless, the 1969 Camaro is certainly one of the most popular verisons ever.

 

No matter what the reasons were, they still had to sell them and there certainly wasn't a shortage of buyers. When you see a bad *** Camaro in a magazine or when someone is asked to pick out their favorite Camaro, 99% of the time they'll point to the 69.

 

i'm not saying that the F4 looks anything like the F1.. i'm saying the F2 takes many cues from the F1, the F3 takes a lot from the F2 but not the same stuff that the F2 had from the F1.. and the F4 takes a lot from the F3 but not the same stuff that the F3 had from the F2.. it's a progression.. the F4 doesnt look hardly anything like the F2 or F1 but it has a lot of similarities with the F3..

the F5 however takes from all generations imo..

thats why with my diagram i had an arrow from 1 to 2, from 2 to 3 and from 3 to 4, but 5 had an arrow coming from all 4 other generaions pointing to it..

no arrows from 1 to 4 there

 

from first to 2nd, 2nd to third and third to 4th, very little carries over as far as design.
First gen is clearly a 3 box design, very 60's design. 2nd gen, early. look NOTHING LIKE A FIRST!!! Ferrari-esque body lines, fast back, circle tail lights, large center grill...nothing like the first gen.
Late 2nd gen to Third gen...same thing. Goes from fast back to hatch back, third gens get a very chisled look, square headlights, loses a few lbs and a few inches, greenhouse is changed up, car wins COTY.
Third gen to 4th, 4th gens take on a very round shape, longer body, same wheel base. greenhouse changed further, but keeps the hatch design. Everything is different.
No one gen looks like another. There is no need to start now.

 

Yes, that's why I said it was one of the most popular versions ever. Many, many people consider it to be the "Quintessential" Camaro and it seems like virtually every 1st Gen. you see on the road is a '69 - but I was just pointing out it wasn't extended by "Popular Demand." But you're certainly correct, they weren't hard to find homes for.