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Old 12-09-2005 | 12:23 AM
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Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........

Originally Posted by cook_dw
Oh man that was my idea..

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...=414257&page=2

About half way down..
i posted mine about 4 hours ahead of you
Old 12-09-2005 | 12:32 AM
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Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........

Originally Posted by guionM
This thread holds the record (BY FAR) as the longest I have ever read completely through..... 1 hour and 15 minutes!

God, do I need a life.



I'm thinking this was the Chevy "GTO" when the picture was taken.

The Camaro name was verboten till about a year ago.




I really liked the 4 light treatment, but after seeing this, I might have to change my mind.




Dead on point!



I suspect you're pretty close.


I'm still pretty sure it says camaro like I told Big a few posts ahead of you. And just looking at the car, it's screaming Camaro at me. I'm definatly not in as much of a position make judgements about the car as you are, but I think what we're seeing was definatly designed as a CAMARO.

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Old 12-09-2005 | 12:34 AM
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I like the cleaned up rendering a lot more, just needs a modern look to stuff the grill, and "if" they must put a chrome bar/Chevron on it, put it under the grill area similar to 1st gen bumper. Maybe same on the back, if necessary.
Some '68 pics, since the "look" has similarities:
http://chevyhiperformance.com/featur...0511ch_camaro/
I can't seem to import them here.
Old 12-09-2005 | 12:40 AM
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Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........

THAT CAR LOOKS REALLY GOOD!!!!!!, I give it an 8 on a 1-10 scale. Definitely something I would buy AS IS if these images are even 60-70 percent of a true representation.

I think the photos out now is actually a plus, it sort of steals the Challengers thunder.

I dont know how some of you guys can be so picky. This thing will be light years better than a fourth gen.

I also want a firebird as bad as any of you, but this Camaro will be just fine, thanks.

In no particular order, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK: GOD; GM; SCOTT S; BOB LUTZ; RICK WAGONER; and BILL FORD THAT WE ARE FINALLY REALLY GETTING A CAR. That it looks this good is a bonus.
Old 12-09-2005 | 01:33 AM
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Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........

I think it looks pretty close to what I thought it would. My anti-retro stance was more about having a copy of the Mustang stigma, but I suppose this isn't going to change.

Note: I didn't get to see most of the pictures (just the main page one and the back of the car)

My .02

1. I'd like to see the front headlight/grill area angled back a little more to reduce frontal area. I'm also thinking the grill is a little too rectangular, it could use a larger headlight area to take up some space. Maybe it's just too thin.

2. I'm pretty sure the rear pillar isn't going to make production, but it really does need to be small(er) for visibility.

I would have liked a modern frontend but I do like the overall look of the car. As long as the car comes in at a 7.0lb/HP or so power:weight ratio I'll be happy.

p.s.

-Keeping fingers crossed for a Firebird/TA, make the GTO a collectors item.
Old 12-09-2005 | 02:28 AM
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Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........

Lets set up a race with my Z/28 versus a new one and if I win, I get a new Z/28 at 1969 pricing! Deal?

I'll even let you ride in it, Doug! lol!
Old 12-09-2005 | 03:45 AM
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This sucks... I never saw the pics...
Old 12-09-2005 | 04:37 AM
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Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........

Originally Posted by SNEAKY NEIL
Are you saying that you think the car looks like a concept Chevelle or you think this concept would make a better Chevelle than Camaro?

From the pics shown, there is no way this car can be anything other than a
retro 1st gen Camaro concept. I don't see even the smallest bit of Chevelle in that concept.
It could go either way on what it could be. I think it would make a better Chevelle with the longer front end and the way the back end looks, but thats just my OWN opinion. I would much rather see an evolution than a form of Devolution, in which they give the car more retro look than evolved look...know what I'm saying? I'll take a new Camaro no matter what and most likely buy one when I get out of college in a few years, or a 2nd gen GTO (2nd gen as in new GTO) if they look good and have decent power as I am a Pontiac man! I know if that thing was a Chevelle my old man would go nucking futs and prolly buy 5 of them!
Old 12-09-2005 | 07:22 AM
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It more than says Camaro to me. In some ways, it is more 1st gen than a 1st gen. Kinda like a caricature of itself, but with style. As I stared at the picture, I found myself wondering how I could be so attracted to the lines - particularly, the line from the nose to the rear of the side window. That curvy line alone says Camaro.

The greenhouse is just amazing. Nothing less. The only thing I'd change if I had the choice would be the rear facia...as was mentioned earlier, Horton's would look good on this thing.

I think it will sell very well, although I have two fears:

- Pricing
- Too long 'till production. I am worried about GM's ability to get good things to market in a timely manner. Other makers seem to be able to do it in a year's time...GM takes about 3. Will they miss the boat again? I say it should be prioritized with paid overtime and whatever it takes, so it can hit showrooms this time next year.
Old 12-09-2005 | 08:35 AM
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Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........

Originally Posted by Joe K. 96 Zeee!!
Sure looks like CAMARO to me!


I agree totally. That was one of the first "little things" I noticed when I saw the pictures.

"CAMARO" is also on the front fender behind the front wheel....
Old 12-09-2005 | 02:50 PM
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I'm an extreme retro fan, probably because I own a 69. If I were in charge, I'd make the 69 all over again with some tweaks for modern regulations, but have C6 underpinnings and drive train. I don't think they could make them fast enough.

But having said that, I think this one would do pretty well. This concept seems to strike a balance that should appeal to a lot of people. My advice would be to give it the quality of the current GTO at a minimum, but don't come in overweight and underpowered, like the GTO and SSR. Don't underproduce them either, as the dealers will turn everyone off with their adjusted market pricing, which was very hard for the GTO to overcome.

Great effort, guys!
Old 12-09-2005 | 04:56 PM
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Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........

Honestly, How long will this retro fad last? I personally was hoping for something never seen before but the car as it is now is beautiful but in 2009 will people still take to retro like they are now? Or if the retro look is still in will the camaro just blend in with all the other cars kinda like the 4th gen did?
Old 12-09-2005 | 05:16 PM
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Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........

If the NAIS version looks anything like the photos we've been seeing lately, I am going to be one happy camper.

The new Camaro has been like the silhouette of a shark swimming through the murky waters of my dreams. I knew it was coming, and although I didn't know what it would look like, I had an idea in the back of my mind. And if everything turns out the way I hope, GM will have nailed it dead on.

I can already picture myself driving the finished concept down University Ave in St. Paul. Windows down, radio off, the sweet sounds of a V8 burbling out the exhaust. Porky's Drive-Thru is up ahead and it is packed. As I get closer, running about 20 mph, I downshift to first and let the motor talk back a little. Everyone's heads turn and people gawk at this beautiful masterpiece.

I can see it now. It is going to happen. This is the car I've been waiting for my whole life.
Old 12-09-2005 | 06:13 PM
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Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........

Originally Posted by HOTCIVIC
If the NAIS version looks anything like the photos we've been seeing lately, I am going to be one happy camper.

The new Camaro has been like the silhouette of a shark swimming through the murky waters of my dreams. I knew it was coming, and although I didn't know what it would look like, I had an idea in the back of my mind. And if everything turns out the way I hope, GM will have nailed it dead on.

I can already picture myself driving the finished concept down University Ave in St. Paul. Windows down, radio off, the sweet sounds of a V8 burbling out the exhaust. Porky's Drive-Thru is up ahead and it is packed. As I get closer, running about 20 mph, I downshift to first and let the motor talk back a little. Everyone's heads turn and people gawk at this beautiful masterpiece.

I can see it now. It is going to happen. This is the car I've been waiting for my whole life.
Wow...all BS aside, there is a lot of feeling in that. Maybe it is just because it is easy for any of us, young or old, to put ourselves into that situation.

For some of us, the wait will be worth it.
Old 12-09-2005 | 06:23 PM
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Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........

Originally Posted by HOTCIVIC
If the NAIS version looks anything like the photos we've been seeing lately, I am going to be one happy camper.

The new Camaro has been like the silhouette of a shark swimming through the murky waters of my dreams. I knew it was coming, and although I didn't know what it would look like, I had an idea in the back of my mind. And if everything turns out the way I hope, GM will have nailed it dead on.

I can already picture myself driving the finished concept down University Ave in St. Paul. Windows down, radio off, the sweet sounds of a V8 burbling out the exhaust. Porky's Drive-Thru is up ahead and it is packed. As I get closer, running about 20 mph, I downshift to first and let the motor talk back a little. Everyone's heads turn and people gawk at this beautiful masterpiece.

I can see it now. It is going to happen. This is the car I've been waiting for my whole life.



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