Some thoughts on the pictures........
#376
Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........
Originally Posted by HOTWHAT?
If the NAIS version looks anything like the photos we've been seeing lately, I am going to be one happy camper.
The new Camaro has been like the silhouette of a shark swimming through the murky waters of my dreams. I knew it was coming, and although I didn't know what it would look like, I had an idea in the back of my mind. And if everything turns out the way I hope, GM will have nailed it dead on.
I can already picture myself driving the finished concept down University Ave in St. Paul. Windows down, radio off, the sweet sounds of a V8 burbling out the exhaust. Porky's Drive-Thru is up ahead and it is packed. As I get closer, running about 20 mph, I downshift to first and let the motor talk back a little. Everyone's heads turn and people gawk at this beautiful masterpiece.
I can see it now. It is going to happen. This is the car I've been waiting for my whole life.
The new Camaro has been like the silhouette of a shark swimming through the murky waters of my dreams. I knew it was coming, and although I didn't know what it would look like, I had an idea in the back of my mind. And if everything turns out the way I hope, GM will have nailed it dead on.
I can already picture myself driving the finished concept down University Ave in St. Paul. Windows down, radio off, the sweet sounds of a V8 burbling out the exhaust. Porky's Drive-Thru is up ahead and it is packed. As I get closer, running about 20 mph, I downshift to first and let the motor talk back a little. Everyone's heads turn and people gawk at this beautiful masterpiece.
I can see it now. It is going to happen. This is the car I've been waiting for my whole life.
#377
Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........
Originally Posted by HOTCIVIC
If the NAIS version looks anything like the photos we've been seeing lately, I am going to be one happy camper.
The new Camaro has been like the silhouette of a shark swimming through the murky waters of my dreams. I knew it was coming, and although I didn't know what it would look like, I had an idea in the back of my mind. And if everything turns out the way I hope, GM will have nailed it dead on.
I can already picture myself driving the finished concept down University Ave in St. Paul. Windows down, radio off, the sweet sounds of a V8 burbling out the exhaust. Porky's Drive-Thru is up ahead and it is packed. As I get closer, running about 20 mph, I downshift to first and let the motor talk back a little. Everyone's heads turn and people gawk at this beautiful masterpiece.
I can see it now. It is going to happen. This is the car I've been waiting for my whole life.
The new Camaro has been like the silhouette of a shark swimming through the murky waters of my dreams. I knew it was coming, and although I didn't know what it would look like, I had an idea in the back of my mind. And if everything turns out the way I hope, GM will have nailed it dead on.
I can already picture myself driving the finished concept down University Ave in St. Paul. Windows down, radio off, the sweet sounds of a V8 burbling out the exhaust. Porky's Drive-Thru is up ahead and it is packed. As I get closer, running about 20 mph, I downshift to first and let the motor talk back a little. Everyone's heads turn and people gawk at this beautiful masterpiece.
I can see it now. It is going to happen. This is the car I've been waiting for my whole life.
#378
Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........
I've finally seen the pics and am ready to comment on them. I just hope all the significant people haven't given up on this thread now that it's reached 26 pages (wow). Here's me thoughts:
Initial reaction: WOW. That is one sweet car.
Upon reflection: WOW. That is one sweet car.
I think the design is excellent. I LOVE the coke-bottle shape. It's cinched waist is beautiful, especially how it leads into the rear quarter vents. I'm pleased that it doesn't have those swooshes above the wheel well openings. I've never cared for those on the '69s, the last gen Impala, or the current Malibu. They're too gimmack-y. Thank God they gave the center of the vehicle a treatment more like the '67-'68 Camaros. The flared wheel well openings are awesome. Gives the car a real tough, muscular look.
I like the very back end. I like the theme of having the squared off round lights and exhaust tips. The taillights remind me of, I think, a '68 Caprice or Impala. Very different. I also like how the trunk rises from the center line as it moves towards the quarters. Reminds me of those late 50s or early 60s bat wing Impalas.
At first I was hoping the top of the greenhouse should be a little more rounded, but I thought that that may date the car a bit too much, making it look late 90s-ish. So maybe the flatter greenhouse line is correct.
In terms of the front end, it's hard for me to decide which one is better. The 2 designs side by side confuse me. I'd need to see 2 cars side by side to determine which one I like better. Kudos to the designers who shut the other design out while looking at the one design. But I think I like the left side a bit better. The chin spoiler seems to be a bit deeper and more aggressive.
I thought the interior renderings were cool. The dash was a bit spartan, would like to see a bit more something in the center stack area, maybe larger vents or maybe just moved up a bit.
The one item that bothers me is the car's rump. It looks a little wide, especially in the one pic (where the camera is down low). It kinda reminds me of a Vette in that respect. But there may be a reason for the large rump. Probably to give the car a useable trunk and so that the wheel houses don't intrude on the back seat. With that said, from a purely asthetic point of view, maybe the rump could taper in a bit more from a point on the body that is centered above the wheel hub back to the bumper. Or, reduce the taper of the greenhouse at the C-pillar.
I shouldn't complain. To me, the car is a grand slam. I love how it looks like a tight skin pulled over a muscular frame. The creases and edges and angles are great. The stance is great. The wheel/tire to body ratio is about perfect. The car has great proportions. I like the car a lot just as it is and if the production model is anything like this excercize, then it will be a hit.
I've showed the pics to a few people and they all love it. One older guy (66) said that it was an awesome looking car. That it was sharp. He also said "no offense, Mark, but that car is sharper than your T/A". He also said that it had some of the new Cadillac look to it. My g/f said that it looked kind of like a Mustang in a few areas. I think people who say it looks like a Mustang are nuts. I don't see Mustang at all in this car. But she wasn't concerned about how it looks. To her, it better be powerful and handle great; the looks are secondary.
To GM: Awesome job!! These are the kinds of designs we need to see. Not in 08 or 09 but right NOW. You want to increase market share? Fast track cars like this Camaro and others like it so that they are at dealers in a year, 2 tops, from now.
Initial reaction: WOW. That is one sweet car.
Upon reflection: WOW. That is one sweet car.
I think the design is excellent. I LOVE the coke-bottle shape. It's cinched waist is beautiful, especially how it leads into the rear quarter vents. I'm pleased that it doesn't have those swooshes above the wheel well openings. I've never cared for those on the '69s, the last gen Impala, or the current Malibu. They're too gimmack-y. Thank God they gave the center of the vehicle a treatment more like the '67-'68 Camaros. The flared wheel well openings are awesome. Gives the car a real tough, muscular look.
I like the very back end. I like the theme of having the squared off round lights and exhaust tips. The taillights remind me of, I think, a '68 Caprice or Impala. Very different. I also like how the trunk rises from the center line as it moves towards the quarters. Reminds me of those late 50s or early 60s bat wing Impalas.
At first I was hoping the top of the greenhouse should be a little more rounded, but I thought that that may date the car a bit too much, making it look late 90s-ish. So maybe the flatter greenhouse line is correct.
In terms of the front end, it's hard for me to decide which one is better. The 2 designs side by side confuse me. I'd need to see 2 cars side by side to determine which one I like better. Kudos to the designers who shut the other design out while looking at the one design. But I think I like the left side a bit better. The chin spoiler seems to be a bit deeper and more aggressive.
I thought the interior renderings were cool. The dash was a bit spartan, would like to see a bit more something in the center stack area, maybe larger vents or maybe just moved up a bit.
The one item that bothers me is the car's rump. It looks a little wide, especially in the one pic (where the camera is down low). It kinda reminds me of a Vette in that respect. But there may be a reason for the large rump. Probably to give the car a useable trunk and so that the wheel houses don't intrude on the back seat. With that said, from a purely asthetic point of view, maybe the rump could taper in a bit more from a point on the body that is centered above the wheel hub back to the bumper. Or, reduce the taper of the greenhouse at the C-pillar.
I shouldn't complain. To me, the car is a grand slam. I love how it looks like a tight skin pulled over a muscular frame. The creases and edges and angles are great. The stance is great. The wheel/tire to body ratio is about perfect. The car has great proportions. I like the car a lot just as it is and if the production model is anything like this excercize, then it will be a hit.
I've showed the pics to a few people and they all love it. One older guy (66) said that it was an awesome looking car. That it was sharp. He also said "no offense, Mark, but that car is sharper than your T/A". He also said that it had some of the new Cadillac look to it. My g/f said that it looked kind of like a Mustang in a few areas. I think people who say it looks like a Mustang are nuts. I don't see Mustang at all in this car. But she wasn't concerned about how it looks. To her, it better be powerful and handle great; the looks are secondary.
To GM: Awesome job!! These are the kinds of designs we need to see. Not in 08 or 09 but right NOW. You want to increase market share? Fast track cars like this Camaro and others like it so that they are at dealers in a year, 2 tops, from now.
#379
Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........
Originally Posted by HOTCIVIC
If the NAIS version looks anything like the photos we've been seeing lately, I am going to be one happy camper.
The new Camaro has been like the silhouette of a shark swimming through the murky waters of my dreams. I knew it was coming, and although I didn't know what it would look like, I had an idea in the back of my mind. And if everything turns out the way I hope, GM will have nailed it dead on.
I can already picture myself driving the finished concept down University Ave in St. Paul. Windows down, radio off, the sweet sounds of a V8 burbling out the exhaust. Porky's Drive-Thru is up ahead and it is packed. As I get closer, running about 20 mph, I downshift to first and let the motor talk back a little. Everyone's heads turn and people gawk at this beautiful masterpiece.
I can see it now. It is going to happen. This is the car I've been waiting for my whole life.
The new Camaro has been like the silhouette of a shark swimming through the murky waters of my dreams. I knew it was coming, and although I didn't know what it would look like, I had an idea in the back of my mind. And if everything turns out the way I hope, GM will have nailed it dead on.
I can already picture myself driving the finished concept down University Ave in St. Paul. Windows down, radio off, the sweet sounds of a V8 burbling out the exhaust. Porky's Drive-Thru is up ahead and it is packed. As I get closer, running about 20 mph, I downshift to first and let the motor talk back a little. Everyone's heads turn and people gawk at this beautiful masterpiece.
I can see it now. It is going to happen. This is the car I've been waiting for my whole life.
#380
Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........
Originally Posted by HOTCIVIC
If the NAIS version looks anything like the photos we've been seeing lately, I am going to be one happy camper.
The new Camaro has been like the silhouette of a shark swimming through the murky waters of my dreams. I knew it was coming, and although I didn't know what it would look like, I had an idea in the back of my mind. And if everything turns out the way I hope, GM will have nailed it dead on.
I can already picture myself driving the finished concept down University Ave in St. Paul. Windows down, radio off, the sweet sounds of a V8 burbling out the exhaust. Porky's Drive-Thru is up ahead and it is packed. As I get closer, running about 20 mph, I downshift to first and let the motor talk back a little. Everyone's heads turn and people gawk at this beautiful masterpiece.
I can see it now. It is going to happen. This is the car I've been waiting for my whole life.
The new Camaro has been like the silhouette of a shark swimming through the murky waters of my dreams. I knew it was coming, and although I didn't know what it would look like, I had an idea in the back of my mind. And if everything turns out the way I hope, GM will have nailed it dead on.
I can already picture myself driving the finished concept down University Ave in St. Paul. Windows down, radio off, the sweet sounds of a V8 burbling out the exhaust. Porky's Drive-Thru is up ahead and it is packed. As I get closer, running about 20 mph, I downshift to first and let the motor talk back a little. Everyone's heads turn and people gawk at this beautiful masterpiece.
I can see it now. It is going to happen. This is the car I've been waiting for my whole life.
#381
Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........
you know what I dont understand...is that no one has really chopped this picture? I figured that this would be the most chopped picture out there!! There would be reds and blues, yellows, with different wheels, riced out ones, ones with different design themes....Im really surprised and even a little upset about it. You might not be able to show the real pictures, but what about photochops??
#382
Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........
Originally Posted by HuJass
My g/f said that it looked kind of like a Mustang in a few areas.
#383
Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........
Originally Posted by Big Als Z
you know what I dont understand...is that no one has really chopped this picture? I figured that this would be the most chopped picture out there!! There would be reds and blues, yellows, with different wheels, riced out ones, ones with different design themes....Im really surprised and even a little upset about it. You might not be able to show the real pictures, but what about photochops??
#384
Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........
I'm not crazy about the fender flares. Those look very Mustangish, and Ford is using the same type of thing on a lot of their other new cars. For example, the new Mazda MX-5/Miata has them. I would heavily prefer they either disappear all together or turn into '69 Camaro hockey stick style fenders .
I would also have to have a 60's style Camaro lip spoiler on mine as well. No spoiler = a V6 sports car in my book.
It isn't what I wanted, but it looks tough as nails, and is definitely a Camaro. What I was looking for wasn't really a Camaro, it was a Ferrari 612 crossed with a Corvette crossed with a Jaguar XK. If it is offerred with paddle shifters connected to a 6-speed auto/manumatic tranny I will be putting off paying my college loans off and getting one. Make mine Bright Blue Metallic GM
I would also have to have a 60's style Camaro lip spoiler on mine as well. No spoiler = a V6 sports car in my book.
It isn't what I wanted, but it looks tough as nails, and is definitely a Camaro. What I was looking for wasn't really a Camaro, it was a Ferrari 612 crossed with a Corvette crossed with a Jaguar XK. If it is offerred with paddle shifters connected to a 6-speed auto/manumatic tranny I will be putting off paying my college loans off and getting one. Make mine Bright Blue Metallic GM
#385
Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........
So the question remains how much will the final product look like this one? Remember what Ford did with the 05 stang - the car was done and they intentinally released a misleading concept.
My thoughts on the concept: It's less retro than i *expected* which is a good thing. I was worried we would have an '05 mustang on our hands (doesn't mean we don't until we see the final product i suppose). But all in all i am very pleased, it looks great. Except for the mirrors, but i'm sure those will change. Good work GM.
My thoughts on the concept: It's less retro than i *expected* which is a good thing. I was worried we would have an '05 mustang on our hands (doesn't mean we don't until we see the final product i suppose). But all in all i am very pleased, it looks great. Except for the mirrors, but i'm sure those will change. Good work GM.
#386
Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........
from what i hear, there have been a few changes to what we saw, but if the production model keeps the major styling aspects of the concept, i'll be a happy camper
#390
Re: Some thoughts on the pictures........
Wanted to throw my two cents in.
Cheers for IRS and true duals. Bowtie is alright but I'd rather see the traditional Camaro ribbon mounted in its place instead. Not liking the taillights; I prefer them either rounder or modeled after the 4th gen's. Not a fan of the exterior at all actually, but I can't deny that it's tastefully done and that a lot of thought went into its design. In other words, I have nothing but respect for it. The only real thing possibly left out of my wishlist (besides the Camaro's stablemate.. ) are targa/T-tops; will we see them? 7/10 stars!
Cheers for IRS and true duals. Bowtie is alright but I'd rather see the traditional Camaro ribbon mounted in its place instead. Not liking the taillights; I prefer them either rounder or modeled after the 4th gen's. Not a fan of the exterior at all actually, but I can't deny that it's tastefully done and that a lot of thought went into its design. In other words, I have nothing but respect for it. The only real thing possibly left out of my wishlist (besides the Camaro's stablemate.. ) are targa/T-tops; will we see them? 7/10 stars!