Pirelli is fine, but there's a very good reason that the ZR1 uses the Michelins (along with Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porsche, and everyone else). They are the best street tire there is. I thought (and still think) it is worth considering as an upgrade option.

Cross-drilled and slotted rotors are really just eye candy. Look at real race cars -- indy, NASCAR, F1, take your pick. None of them have cross-drilled or slotted rotors.

There can be an eye candy package if that's what you want, but I think the Track Pack should focus on things that actually improve performance.

GM put 275s on a 9" wheel on the 4th gen SS/WS6. An extra 10mm should be fine, especially with the larger 28" tall tire and the additional sidewall height that comes with it.

If not, 9.5" wheels would be fine, as long as they're still lightweight and forged.

Just because the high performance division has been shut down doesn't mean that GM won't be producing high performance cars any more, nor does it mean that the division couldn't spring back to life again in the future.

My guess is that the Michelin tires alone could get you that on a stock SS. If not, toss in a Pedders suspension (and tune it right) and you're there.

 

Oh, sorry, I was thinking of something that could realistically be offered on the 5th gen. Sorry.

The stock suspension is already adjustable, and f***ing it up is entirely possible if you adjust it without knowing what you're doing. I'm just looking to increase the range of adjustment.

I agree that the suspension/chassis changes should address the steering feel.

 

Apparently, GM has already done some work on a better performing version of this car. How about pulling ahead the Chassis portion of the Z28 vehicle and calling it the “Z51” package (or something similar). I would have expected the Z28 to stop, handle and turn better than the SS? Those items can be kickoff without all of the expensive powertrain and body panel changes.

In General, the Camaro Z51 package should include the following:

Re-calibrate the steering that most reviews have mentioned (actually this needs to happen before next model year regardless)

Shock / struts, Bars, Springs: Push the tuning compromise more to the side of handling and performance. (I would also like to see mono-tube shocks instead of the twin tubes)

Gear Ratio

Wheels wider with more aggressive stance

Brakes

Do something about the peddles so you can actually “heal-toe” downshift this “performance” car.

 

TH400 w/ 4500 stall, 12 bolt solid rear, 4.56 gears, a carburetor and a distributor.

oh wait...

I think the car should get 4.10s, stiffer suspension, a lighter exhaust (from what I hear the exhaust is VERY heavy), and maybe a better shifter? dont know how good the shifter is in the car.

both the challenger and mustang offer a drag pack/track pack, its silly for the camaro not to. wish it was like the old days when you had your choice of 5 gear ratios, 4 different transmissions, and you could pretty much piece your car together on a sheet of paper.

 

The Solstice GXP folks run 295s on an 8" wheel ... us NA folks stick with 285s.

 

actually i have seen some NASCAR's that have slotted rotors and some LeManns cars also have them.

i think that basically , the things we are wanting for a "track pack" are the same components (minus hp changes) that most people are wanting in a non s/c z28. lighter, stiffer,more responsive. sounds like a "build your own z28" to me.

 

Yep, just went back and looked at my pictures from when I was at Richard Childress Racing's shop and the cars have slotted rotors

 

I admit to not being an expert in NASCAR.

Some googling indicates that you're right -- some of them use slotted rotors. I didn't find any evidence that anyone is using cross-drilled rotors, though.

 

i know that the c6r has some sort of crossed drill going on. im not sure that it is the purpose of it, but it does seem to have 4 holes on the rotor. could be for the heat/gas ventalation. im not sure exactly.

 

Hmmmm.... giving this some thought, it seems like the old I4/V8 Mustang days (pre SVT) when you either got the bottom or the top with no in between, despite the image GM has cultivated with the SS moniker, I cant help but feel the SS is GMs version of the the GT and there should be something more. It doesn't have to be GMs version of a GT500, but I wouldn't mind seeing something with better more focused handling and braking as a 3 or 4k option.

 

ill just build my own track pack. got pedders , new lighter wheels and tires, full exhaust, just need to do something about the gearing now. does GMPP offer lower gears?

 

C6R has ceramic brakes and the rotors do have some holes in them but they are not cross drilled (I used to know why exactly they have those few holes but I forgot the reason, I think it had to do with the manufacture of the rotor and not for performance). If this is a track pack that is intended for the track, then it should have quality vented blanks period. Cross drilled rotors are better at breaking than they are at braking. They have less disk material so they heat faster, there is less pad swept area so they stop crummier, and they have stress risers so they are more likely to break compared to a blank.

As far as tires go, 285s are supposed to be on a 9.5 inch rim minimum and are really for 10 inch wheels. Sure you could throw them on a 9 inch just like you can put a 315 on an 8 inch wide wheel but it isn't a good idea. The Solstice comes with P245/45R18 tires all around for all models, I don't know where this 285 on an 8 inch rim stuff is coming from.

Back to the original question, this should basically be the successor to 1LE with nice adjustable Koni shocks all around, bigger bars, perhaps a little more spring rate, and stickier tires. That's it. I don't really think they should mess with the gearing. Magnetic shocks would be great, but if you recall F55 is a $1995 option on the Corvette (granted it comes with the lame Z51 C/D brake rotors for that price)... maybe save that for a Z28. The whole package should be no more than a $2000 option, IMO.

 

Haz-Matt, I think the people who are Solo and road racing the Solstice are using 285 on stock size wheels. I don't think they are talking about driving them on the street with that combo.

It's funny that you mention the 1LE, I had a 1995 and I always felt like what I had was to the third and fouth generation cars what the Z28 was to the first and very early second generation cars. I would really like to see the Z28 return to it's early roots, but if that's not possible I wouldn't mind getting another 1LE if it had the right equipment.

 

Right you are.

 

No need to be sorry....I understand your predicament.