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Old 05-05-2009 | 06:27 PM
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the 384rwhp is pretty close to what I would expect it to do
Old 05-05-2009 | 09:08 PM
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that sucks...what was wrong with it?. I have a hard time believing that my car did more with just catback and CAI
Nothing, those are avg. numbers for a stock LS1 in an A4 Goat. Car had about 14k miles on it at that time. It is rated at 350 FWHP, so 67 hp lost in the drive train is about right, that is right around 19% drive train loss.
Old 05-05-2009 | 10:29 PM
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wow, that just seems like a lot of loss to me. was that partly because of IRS, the auto, both? Sorry, I haven't owned an auto is some time now.

I usually hear somewhere between 12-15%, so I thought the 5th gen would be around there too

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Old 05-06-2009 | 02:34 AM
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Maybe I have never had it explained properly but I just don't buy correction factors for dynos. Take this for example if the power applied to the instrument was 384 RWHP then why do we need a calculation to reduce it? Was the dyno fooled? If so, why are dynos so dumb?

On a different note why do the two dynos(Mustang and Dynojet) have 2 different numbers all the time? If the numbers are so all over the place how can we be sure of any number at all? Are engine dynos as messed up as the wheel dynos?
correction numbers are required so that power numbers (preferably from the same dyno) can be compared to runs on different days. As you know, how much power an engine makes is directly related to the quality of air that it ingests. warmer air=less power higher humidy=less power lower barometric pressure=less power

correction factors are applied to adjust numbers so they can be comparable to engines dynoed at different temps, humidy levels, and barametric pressure levels
Old 05-06-2009 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobb
wow, that just seems like a lot of loss to me. was that partly because of IRS, the auto, both? Sorry, I haven't owned an auto is some time now.

I usually hear somewhere between 12-15%, so I thought the 5th gen would be around there too
Yes, it is from the IRS and the A4. They say 12-15% loss through a M6 and 15-20% loss through a A4 for rule of thumb.
Old 05-06-2009 | 08:32 AM
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http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=133947

I trust those guys numbers...
Old 05-06-2009 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by super83Z
Maybe I have never had it explained properly but I just don't buy correction factors for dynos. Take this for example if the power applied to the instrument was 384 RWHP then why do we need a calculation to reduce it? Was the dyno fooled? If so, why are dynos so dumb?

On a different note why do the two dynos(Mustang and Dynojet) have 2 different numbers all the time? If the numbers are so all over the place how can we be sure of any number at all? Are engine dynos as messed up as the wheel dynos?
Just realize that dynos or any measurement device may suffer measurement errors based on how they are made. Something as simple as a ruler may be off because of how its made. If the ruler is off, the foot it measures is not accurate. A ruler is a much more simple tool than a dynamometer. Based on how this equipment is made, there can be errors in the measured power output. That is why a correction factor must be applied.

Any measurement device is going to have some error that must be corrected for. The more complex the tool, the greater the chance for variation in the measurement.
Old 05-06-2009 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobb
the 384rwhp is pretty close to what I would expect it to do

That is 1 hp less than what I dynoed out at in an 08 vette bone stock...not bad at all.
Old 05-06-2009 | 11:24 PM
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Livernois made 364rwhp and 371rwtq

New Era Performance 366rwhp and 372rwtq in stock form

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