when do you thik they will start taking orders or whatever. Will they have enough?

 

#1 Check typical times. Find out what the lead time is for any other new car. If a 2007 Grand Prix or Mustang started taking orders 2 months before production, the same will hold true with Camaro.

#2 I don't understand the direction or thinking behind your question "Will they have enough?" They are going to make enough to barely meet demand, while no so much that if demand slacks they are stuck with excess cars and capacity. Exactly as is the target with every single other car currently made by every single other manufacturer on the planet earth.

Not a flame to you or anything like that, but the lack of any really new Camaro info is really making for some really less-than-well-thought-out questions here.

 

Im glad you said it and not me

 

[Not a flame to you or anything like that, but the lack of any really new Camaro info is really making for some really less-than-well-thought-out questions here. [/QUOTE]

Is that really anything new from threads for the past 5 years?

 

This may be an equally-stupid post as the original, but my worry is that there will be enough buyers for the Camaro. Not to offend any future Camaro buyers, but I'm even speaking for myself; I want one so bad, but still not sure what the financial future might bring. I hope the love and yearning for a Camaro will still be with all of us when it finally arrives, and we still have the money for it.

 

GM was hesitant to build the Camaro, but now that they are I think we all have good reason to beleive that they are not stupid business people. They are #1 for a reason arent they? They wouldnt build it if they didnt have some sort of notion that it was going to sell...and it will sell. They pay people to specifically analyze the market for possible buyers, and from what I hear, that market is looking pretty good...especially considering that the Camaro already has a cult following. GM has come a long way since 20 years ago when they made mostly cheap cars that made people lose trust in them. There is a good ensemble of very good managers, research teams, artists and engineers there now that make good decisions. Besides, GM has a way of outdoing the competition as of late, and have only been getting better at it. The 5th generation Camaro did, has and will have a strong fanbase of people who WILL buy it. I mean seriouslly, I own a 1965 Mustang (dont hate me), and the second that I saw the 5th generation I made a decision right then and there that I will sell my Stang and buy the Camaro. I will be getting 9000 dollars for the Stang, and I will be doing nothing but saving from now until the Camaro arrives. That is how much of a Camaro fan I am, how much of a Camaro fan are you? Im ready to sell my soul for this car, and I do believe that others can say the same...with people that diehard about this car, how could one worry about GM being able to sell Camaros? Im not, GM is not, and neither should any of you.

Regarding the question that started this thread...again, GM knows what they are doing. They will have enough ready for us, and if not that only means that they will increase production on the second year. Akunamatata, no worries.

 

I Guess my wording made that question sound ignorant, What im really trying to ask is when the new SS Camaro hits dealer lots, am i gonna be able to buy one off the lot (within a couple of weeks) without pre ordering it.

 

I think so much of the answer to that depends on more than just how many GM will be building, for example demand in your area, allocation to dealerships in your area etc... no way anyone can answer that question reliably, even if we knew how many SS's were to be built.

 

I didn't think it was a stupid question. Some people spend excessive time on message boards, and like to flame people who don't post to their standards. If you have a question, post up. I believe that when the Camaro arrives there will be mark ups and there will be demand. Cars that come to mind are the S-197 Mustangs, the Mini, and the Beetle. All three had outrageous mark ups at their introduction, but came back down to earth. The Camaro will be no exception. Special Edition Camaro's will feel this effect even more. I am still waiting to see if the Shelby GT500's price comes back down to earth.

The best thing going for us on the price gouging is the competition from Ford and Dodge. Hopefully the musclecar wars will begin at the dealerships with the pricing .

 

I stopped by a local dealer that had a Z06 in the showroom just the other day and they were wanting $80k for it. Hopefully we are not still getting screwed by the dealers a full year after its intorduction like with the Z06.

I remember taking my wife to test drive a Mustang in Feb of '06 after i totalled her car and they still had excessive mark-ups on the GTs at that point. I refuse to do business with a dealer who is going to screw over their customers like that.

 

Exactly my thoughts on all points.

It's probably safe to say that for the first little while demand is going to outstrip supply, and you're not likely to be able to go to your local Chevy dealer two weeks after the car's introduction and have your choice of 8 different Camaros sitting on the lot. The big question will be how long it takes the demand to slacken and the supply to ramp up to get things more into equilibrium. And after that, how long before GM has to cut back production when demand slows even more.

If we look at the Solstice / Sky, GM knew from the get-go that they'd be nowhere close to meeting demand for well past a year. But they had to take the long term view of the fickleness of the market and the total number of possible customers over the lifespan of the cars. They didn't want to do the Fiero all over again.

 

It will be interesting to see what the price over invoice of that forum special edition that Jason was cooking up ends up being. Especially if its immediately after the introduction. Unfortunately, I think it will be borderline outrageous, and will dwindle the ranks of the interested quite a bit. Why would they bother if they can't make a hefty profit? To appease the fans? We're about as die-hard as it gets, we visit this forum all the time. Its not like we're going anywhere, and GM knows that.

Expect ridiculous mark-ups out of the gate, and just like Mustangs, a year later they will be rotting on dealer lots all over the place. A Saleen partnered Ford dealership next to my office has had the same 3 S281s for almost 2 years now. Its typical market dynamics: If you're motivated to be the first one in line, you're going to pay for the priviledge.

 

Gee, who could that be refering to?

At any route, asking about order times was a fair question. Asking if they will have enough to meet demand is a little.... well......

 

it was not a stupid question at all... the only dumb question is the one not asked. and the theory i think behind his question is. an astronomical amount of people are gonna run out and buy one. its been brewing for so long and the 'mob' of people (enthusiasts) could possibly be underestimated. it could go the other way also, it may flop. suppose they overestimate it, give it a vette' pricetag and it doesnt sell at first... of course everybody and their brother wants one!!! but can they all afford it. im willing to sell a ******** to get one... but realisticly, on my budget it may be 10 years before i get one. i have owned 7 camaros. i love em, i am the camaro guy...... i work on em all the time, talk about em all the time, i preach it, but once again.... EVERY one that i have bought has been USED and cheap. there are camaros for sale on every street corner across america. for 1000 bucks anybody can have a decent one, and for another 1000 bucks they can be made into GREAT ones. thats what the problem was in 2002. they werent selling not because they werent excellent, but because EVERYBODY already has a camaro. thats not a bad thing, they just needed a change. i have never bought a 4th gen or a 2nd gen and probably will never. but i love 3rd gens, and 1st gens even more. the 5th gen is right up my alley. not EVERYONE has that body style. so millions are going to go buy one. i think they will make enough. but i also think they will be busting their humps all year to keep up with the market. probably the early year sales will skyrocket. only time will tell. til' then im saving my pennies hoping to get one in 09

 

I may need a ********, keep me posted.