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Old 04-27-2009 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JakeRobb
Perhaps you should be on lotuselise.com instead of camaroz28.com.

Just teasing.
lol obviously I meant the lightest camaro I could get.

It irks me that if I want a really good handling Mustang GT, I'd have to go for the GT Premium package, as you can't get the Track Pak on the GT Deluxe. I am not going to spend 33k on a Mustang, and I don't want heated leather seats and a bunch of shiny trim all over everything.

The Camaro handles as well (though differently) as the Track Pak 'Stang with the RS or SS package. Every professional review I've read has had the Track Pak Mustang GT equaling the SS Camaro in handling (though losing significantly in acceleration). The LT/RS is a little lighter and should at least equal the SS in handling, and that's exactly what I want. As I understand it, the V6 Camaro's suspension tuning is different than the SS', but mainly because the front had to be retuned for the lighter weight. (correct me if I'm wrong, but I haven't read anywhere that the V6 is any looser in it's suspension settings/feel)
Old 04-27-2009 | 05:13 PM
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I have read professional reviews that said the ride in the V6 was "softer" then the V8 but I can't point to anything specific. I think it's a difference between the FE2 and FE3 suspension package.
Old 04-28-2009 | 09:42 PM
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I have read professional reviews that said the ride in the V6 was "softer" then the V8 but I can't point to anything specific. I think it's a difference between the FE2 and FE3 suspension package.
Hmm.....I was under the impression that FE2/FE3 was mainly a difference of spring rates to deal with the differences in weight distribution. I will have to keep my eyes peeled for more reviews.
Old 04-29-2009 | 02:27 PM
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Wow your best dude ! Way to show some character

when you are in shop rite and you see people buying shop rite brand rice krispies are you like " ha , can't afford the Kellog's Rice Krispies ? "

I am sure you make your mother prouder evry day.
their was no disrespect meant by me, but if someone says they like the v6 camaro that's one thing, but to say they like it better than the v8 is ridiculous. and my mother couldn't be prouder...her son has a nice paying job helping sick people, is a wonderful father of two, a great husband and last but not least....drives a new corvette.
Old 04-29-2009 | 04:54 PM
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Why can't someone like it better? We might find it hard, but if someone isn't looking for what the V-8 offers, there's no reason why they shouldn't like the V-6 better if that's what they're looking for.
Old 04-29-2009 | 05:24 PM
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Why can't someone like it better? We might find it hard, but if someone isn't looking for what the V-8 offers, there's no reason why they shouldn't like the V-6 better if that's what they're looking for.
the v6 camaro does nothing performance wise better....nothing how can you like it better? all he was doing was trying to justify to make himself feel better about getting a v6 camaro, be a man and say if i could afford it i would get the v8 camaro don't get a v6 then say how you like it better...your lying to yourself if you do
Old 04-29-2009 | 05:25 PM
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i bought a 2008 ls3 corvette imagine me saying hey i like the corvette better than the z06...cmon stop
Old 04-29-2009 | 06:31 PM
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OK...I just changed this from the rant I posted a few minutes ago so as not to start a war. The bottom line:

1: Not everyone has the same values / wants / needs
2: You are not the original poster, so you can't possibly know what he's thinking, only what YOU would be thinking in his place.
3: I have to agree with some of the earlier posts regarding the whole "you can't afford it, be a man, etc..." comments. Aside from the good possibility that it's not the case at all (see number 1 and 2), it's disrespectful and rude and has no place here.

Just disagree with his choice and let it go.

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Old 04-29-2009 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by besz28
the v6 camaro does nothing performance wise better....nothing how can you like it better? all he was doing was trying to justify to make himself feel better about getting a v6 camaro, be a man and say if i could afford it i would get the v8 camaro don't get a v6 then say how you like it better...your lying to yourself if you do
If your priorities are MPG, cost of ownership and ride quality then the V6 is better.
Old 04-30-2009 | 09:31 AM
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It is also entierely possible that someone CAN afford the V8, but decides that the additional cost isn't worth it to them for the gains in performance. Contrary to popular belief in this country, you don't have to spend every dime you have. Maybe someone decides the V6 with 300 HP is plenty for cruising around and getting on it every now and then and they'd rather keep the extra 6k in a retirement fund or in their kid's college fund. I love performance and I find a lighter weight, well balanced 2LT with 300 HP and all the luxuries and styling I care for (I'm indifferent about the mail slot and I'd prefer 18" rims over 20s) very appealing.
Old 04-30-2009 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by besz28
the v6 camaro does nothing performance wise better....nothing how can you like it better?
A V6 RS might exhibit better handling in certain conditions. It has the same wheels and tires as an SS, and the weight distribution is better.
Old 04-30-2009 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by JeremyNYR
It is also entierely possible that someone CAN afford the V8, but decides that the additional cost isn't worth it to them for the gains in performance. Contrary to popular belief in this country, you don't have to spend every dime you have. Maybe someone decides the V6 with 300 HP is plenty for cruising around and getting on it every now and then and they'd rather keep the extra 6k in a retirement fund or in their kid's college fund. I love performance and I find a lighter weight, well balanced 2LT with 300 HP and all the luxuries and styling I care for (I'm indifferent about the mail slot and I'd prefer 18" rims over 20s) very appealing.
Originally Posted by JakeRobb
A V6 RS might exhibit better handling in certain conditions. It has the same wheels and tires as an SS, and the weight distribution is better.
Look! Two people who get it!

I see no reason to step up to the V8 over the V6. The V6's qualities, such as a bit less weight, a better weight distribution, a lower cost to own and insure, the same looks, excellent MPG and respectable speed are great. And when I want more power I can just add it. It's harder to lose weight than gain horsepower.
Old 04-30-2009 | 11:42 AM
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I don't think the change in weight distribution is going to be worth much at all. I have an 01 Formula and used to have a 00 Firebird. They both ended up with aftermarket shocks and bars, they ran on the same wheels and tires, and really they handled very closely (ie practically the same). Since the V8s had slightly higher spring rates and sway bars to begin with along with tighter steering ratio the limitations of a slightly heavier engine up front was more or less negated (plus it helped that the LS1 is only about 40lbs heavier than the 3800SII anyway). I don't know what the weight of the LLT is but it isn't bound to be all that much. Most of the discrepancy between the models by the official weight numbers had a lot more to do with what options were standard on the V6 versus the V8.

Points about whether the extra power is needed, the lower initial cost, and the likely savings from insurance and MPG are all valid, and I believe moreso than any idea that the V6 is going to handle noticeably better than the V8 from the showroom.

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