Top 10 reasons we need a base model with an optional V8
#16
Re: Top 10 reasons we need a base model with an optional V8
Put me in the group with the people who:
Want a V8 but don't want a SS or Z28
and
I don't need 400 HP. I don't go racing on the weekends, I have no need for that kind of power.
Want a V8 but don't want a SS or Z28
and
I don't need 400 HP. I don't go racing on the weekends, I have no need for that kind of power.
#17
Re: Top 10 reasons we need a base model with an optional V8
Originally Posted by Jason E
Hence why I said I'm ok with it if I could just get a $1,200 V8 option I don't NEED an RS trim level...I NEED a V8.
falchulk,
Of all the '05 GTs I've seen on dealer lots, I never saw one that stickered under $26,500...doesn't mean they weren't out there, but I never saw one...I KNOW I never saw one without leather and the optional Mach stereo!
falchulk,
Of all the '05 GTs I've seen on dealer lots, I never saw one that stickered under $26,500...doesn't mean they weren't out there, but I never saw one...I KNOW I never saw one without leather and the optional Mach stereo!
Contrary to the popular internet myth that they were maked up everywhere, a lot of preorders were for MSRP or even $1 to $100 below in some cases. A lot of guys on um.........other boards I frequent found deals with guys like yourself. Entusiast dealers willing to give guys on thier forums a deal.
I personally test drove a GT that stickered foir 25,600 with red leather at a dealership in Leesburg Va just after they started arriving on the lots.
#18
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I totally agree with you Jason 300% . Back in the day , I was one of those base V8 RS guys . I loved my 92 RS with the 16" Z wheels .
About the Mustang , youve been able to deal on them for quite some time now around these parts . I dont think anyone marked them up at all , even when they came out .
About the Mustang , youve been able to deal on them for quite some time now around these parts . I dont think anyone marked them up at all , even when they came out .
#19
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Originally Posted by 90 Z28SS
I totally agree with you Jason 300% . Back in the day , I was one of those base V8 RS guys . I loved my 92 RS with the 16" Z wheels .
#20
Re: Top 10 reasons we need a base model with an optional V8
I think the base should be a 250 hp range V6 with great gas mileage.
At 250 hp, it will be awesome with FI, something I know would be offered by an aftermarket company. If it could take 15 lbs of boost stock, it could theoretically make 500 hp as long as the intake charge was cooled sufficiently and fuel supply was increased accordingly. Plus 250 hp from a V6 is not too bad.
Also, the 4.8L or 5.3L should be offered, for a low price. But I think it really should have forged pistons and rods, and a max of 9:0 to 1 compression, just in case.
I think the Base V8 should be around 300-325 hp, and up to 375 tq, but be a low cost option.
I think they should go back to the way the 64 mustang was, a bunch of different options, and be able to go down the list and check off what you want or don't want. Ie a SS with everything but no leather. Or a Base model with only a V8 and premium Wheels.
At 250 hp, it will be awesome with FI, something I know would be offered by an aftermarket company. If it could take 15 lbs of boost stock, it could theoretically make 500 hp as long as the intake charge was cooled sufficiently and fuel supply was increased accordingly. Plus 250 hp from a V6 is not too bad.
Also, the 4.8L or 5.3L should be offered, for a low price. But I think it really should have forged pistons and rods, and a max of 9:0 to 1 compression, just in case.
I think the Base V8 should be around 300-325 hp, and up to 375 tq, but be a low cost option.
I think they should go back to the way the 64 mustang was, a bunch of different options, and be able to go down the list and check off what you want or don't want. Ie a SS with everything but no leather. Or a Base model with only a V8 and premium Wheels.
Last edited by 5thGen; 02-09-2006 at 09:11 PM.
#21
Re: Top 10 reasons we need a base model with an optional V8
Originally Posted by 305fan
well if they were as gutless as the TBI 305 was then I certainly wouldn't want one (I too owned a 305 TBI still can't forgive myself for getting it).....but a new base V8 would be far more competitive.
#24
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As much as you make a very compelling arguement Jason, in this day and age I don't really think we are going to see a v8 option to the base car. Just the v8s associated with the various trim levels. I would think it would be much more efficient from a product standpoint to vary the powertrains as little as possible.
#25
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Does the LS4 require 91+ octane? I'm pretty sure the truck V8's don't, but most of the car ones do. A 5.3 DOD V8 running on 87 octane would likely be my engine of choice for my 5th gen. I hope that it would be very closely priced like the Mustang GT, with a base price of just under $25k.
#26
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Originally Posted by Sixer-Bird
Does the LS4 require 91+ octane? I'm pretty sure the truck V8's don't, but most of the car ones do. A 5.3 DOD V8 running on 87 octane would likely be my engine of choice for my 5th gen. I hope that it would be very closely priced like the Mustang GT, with a base price of just under $25k.
#27
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Originally Posted by Jason E
SFireGT,
I thought of you when I made that comment...no harm, no foul, I hope. Remember, I owned a V6 too. The point I am making is that an AFFORDABLE V8 is a helluva lot more desireable to many than an AFFORDABLE V6 when they're buying new. Yes, I suppose I could have been more politically correct...
But then again, I am talking about buying a 6 speed, orange, 300+hp Camaro...how PC am I supposed to be anyway?
I thought of you when I made that comment...no harm, no foul, I hope. Remember, I owned a V6 too. The point I am making is that an AFFORDABLE V8 is a helluva lot more desireable to many than an AFFORDABLE V6 when they're buying new. Yes, I suppose I could have been more politically correct...
But then again, I am talking about buying a 6 speed, orange, 300+hp Camaro...how PC am I supposed to be anyway?
A V6 is still needed tho for those that just want a good looking car and not alot of power. Perfect example is some of the secretarys here at work. A few of them own new Mustangs, some convertable, some coupes, all of them V6s.
However for me, this is probably going to be the last V6 Camaro I ever own
#28
Re: Top 10 reasons we need a base model with an optional V8
Originally Posted by Jason E
6) Base V8s will likely have cheaper insurance...I would need some back up on this. Anyone know the cost to insure a '92 Z28 versus a '92 RS? At this point, they're both so old, its probably irrelevant anyway.
Z28 Yearly (350): $1,800.00
RS Yearly (305): $1,100.00
After seeing that I couldn't afford the Insurance on the Z, but could on the RS. So your thinking is correct... And while that 305 couldn't be modded out much, I bet a 4.8 or 5.3 could definitely be cranked up to nice levels without the Insurance companies knowing it...
#29
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Send a copy of that message to Chevy if you haven't already done so!!
That's a great write-up and I agree whole heartedly! When I got my first Camaro (98 V6) I really wanted a V8. I would've spent less on other options to get one. Z28 was just outside of what I could afford. That said, the 3.8L V6 of the 4th gen was good competition for the 305 V8.
When a 5th gen comes out I would most likely get a 5.3L V8 if available. I don't want to spend upwards of 30,000 dollars. Bang for the buck is where I'm at.
That's a great write-up and I agree whole heartedly! When I got my first Camaro (98 V6) I really wanted a V8. I would've spent less on other options to get one. Z28 was just outside of what I could afford. That said, the 3.8L V6 of the 4th gen was good competition for the 305 V8.
When a 5th gen comes out I would most likely get a 5.3L V8 if available. I don't want to spend upwards of 30,000 dollars. Bang for the buck is where I'm at.
Last edited by Joe K. 96 Zeee!!; 02-12-2006 at 12:50 PM.
#30
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Originally Posted by Joe K. 96 Zeee!!
That said, the 3.8L V6 of the 4th gen was good competition for the 305 V8.