Way to go GM...
03-12-2008 | 11:40 PM
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I may sound like a jackass for asking this, but what does the Camaro share its platform with? Also, what is the size difference between the production car and the concept, or do we not have that information yet? The production mule really looks smaller to me for some reason (by the way, I am not complaining about that
), but that could be because it has a higher roof too, so...
), but that could be because it has a higher roof too, so...
03-13-2008 | 12:00 AM
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03-13-2008 | 04:03 AM
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I'll call baloney on your baloney. 
You cannot call baloney because of one experience -- your own. The 10-bolt will perform fine for relatively stock power levels and street tires. Throw a set of stickies on it for a day at the track and you're playing with fire. Period. Now, what gets people hot and bothered about this is that Mustang guys run seriously sick power through their rears without a peep of trouble. The Ford 9" is the one part of the Mustang's powertrain they've always gotten right.
You cannot call baloney because of one experience -- your own. The 10-bolt will perform fine for relatively stock power levels and street tires. Throw a set of stickies on it for a day at the track and you're playing with fire. Period. Now, what gets people hot and bothered about this is that Mustang guys run seriously sick power through their rears without a peep of trouble. The Ford 9" is the one part of the Mustang's powertrain they've always gotten right.
Originally Posted by 95firehawk
Denial anyone? There wouldn't be countless threads on broken 10 bolts if this rear was capable of handling anything more than a stock, automatic equipped car. I went thru a couple of 10 bolts even though I had the rearend checked twice to make sure everything was square. This was with mild bolt-ons (287rwhp) and stock size street tires. I hope that this mentality doesn't make it to the 5th gen. If so then it won't be any better than the car it replaced.
03-13-2008 | 06:38 AM
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If an 8.5" costs $.50 more, some beancounter will get a raise by saving GM millions by pushing 7.5"ers, making some very convincing case for not going the extra half dollar.
It's why alot of good ideas from GM ended up junk. Materials get downgraded, bolts get reduced in number and size etc etc...
For once I hope they commit to building a truly superior product that they can be proud of and hang their reputation on.
It's why alot of good ideas from GM ended up junk. Materials get downgraded, bolts get reduced in number and size etc etc...
For once I hope they commit to building a truly superior product that they can be proud of and hang their reputation on.
Does make you wonder, right? If there is no significant difference in cost then why not? What other difference would there be? Weight. Putting anything heavier on the car would have pushed it into a different weight class which would have changed the CAFE class, changing everything. They wanted to, but they could not for this reason. THAT is why, not any of the other reasons you assumed.
I don't see why we are rehashing a car that hasn't been built in 6 years. The next Camaro will share only the name. Everything else will be different.
I don't see why we are rehashing a car that hasn't been built in 6 years. The next Camaro will share only the name. Everything else will be different.
03-13-2008 | 07:29 AM
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That rear looks bad *** to me. Reminds me of a C5 Z06.
03-13-2008 | 09:10 AM
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03-13-2008 | 10:49 AM
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Angles and perspective can always make something not look accurate. You heavy MySpace users will know exactly what I am referring to. 
Here's an awesome example of the car in question:
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=588320
Here's an awesome example of the car in question:
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=588320
03-13-2008 | 10:57 AM
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03-13-2008 | 10:57 AM
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Very first thing I thought of when I saw the black rear end pic above was C5/C6 rear.
The only thing I'm really disappointed in is the backup lights. They literally look like an afterthought. They should be placed up near the rest of the lights -- unless they felt their current location helps to break up the sea of otherwise nothingness that is going on there.....
The only thing I'm really disappointed in is the backup lights. They literally look like an afterthought. They should be placed up near the rest of the lights -- unless they felt their current location helps to break up the sea of otherwise nothingness that is going on there.....
03-13-2008 | 11:03 AM
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The only thing I'm really disappointed in is the backup lights. They literally look like an afterthought. They should be placed up near the rest of the lights -- unless they felt their current location helps to break up the sea of otherwise nothingness that is going on there.....
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