Well it looks like ZL1 won out over Z28!
02-09-2011 | 09:53 AM
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Re: Well it looks like ZL1 won out over Z28!
No. Well...not really. 
I think about it this way, and you will hear me repeat this a lot...
We wanted a new Camaro. We got it.
We wanted HUD in that Camaro. We got it.
We wanted a Convertible. We got it.
We wanted a high-end, supercharged power machine. We (just) got it.
Granted, I say we as in the majority of the voices out there. In addition we cannot have everything that we want just the way we want it. However, If history repeats itself, the Z28 name won't be forgotten. I mean...what else is left? Is anything on the radar to directly compete with the Boss 302?
At the last disciple meeting last summer, one of the engineers CTF cars had that steering wheel on it. I sat in it and got a feel for it. Not bad. Doesn't quite fit the rest of the interior...but slightly larger in diameter and felt pretty good.
I think about it this way, and you will hear me repeat this a lot...
We wanted a new Camaro. We got it.
We wanted HUD in that Camaro. We got it.
We wanted a Convertible. We got it.
We wanted a high-end, supercharged power machine. We (just) got it.
Granted, I say we as in the majority of the voices out there. In addition we cannot have everything that we want just the way we want it. However, If history repeats itself, the Z28 name won't be forgotten. I mean...what else is left? Is anything on the radar to directly compete with the Boss 302?
I really prefer the 2010 steering wheel over the new one also.
02-09-2011 | 09:56 AM
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Re: Well it looks like ZL1 won out over Z28!
Don't forget...
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02-09-2011 | 09:58 AM
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Re: Well it looks like ZL1 won out over Z28!
Basically they are releasing a top model name that nobody knows anything about and has never been used before on a Camaro. Now a guy spending $50k+ can tell people they drive a ZL1 and look at blank stares while they explain for the 100th time that it is an expensive Camaro. I guess we'll have to wait a few more years for a Z28.
http://www.superchevy.com/features/c...zl1/index.html
Other than that you are correct IMO.
02-09-2011 | 10:01 AM
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Re: Well it looks like ZL1 won out over Z28!
Best regards,
Elie
02-09-2011 | 10:02 AM
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02-09-2011 | 10:04 AM
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Re: Well it looks like ZL1 won out over Z28!
FYI it has been used on Camaros in the past..
http://www.superchevy.com/features/c...zl1/index.html
Other than that you are correct IMO.
http://www.superchevy.com/features/c...zl1/index.html
Other than that you are correct IMO.
02-09-2011 | 10:09 AM
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Re: Well it looks like ZL1 won out over Z28!
2012 CAMARO ZL1
6.2L Supercharged V8 LSA
6 Speed Manual Transmission
Heavy Duty Driveline
Magnetic Ride Control
Brembo Brakes
Electric Power Steering
Track Ready Cooling Systems
Aggressive bodywork, including vented hood, Transformers 3 style bumper, special wheels
New steering wheel and interior trim with nice silver accents throughout
6.2L Supercharged V8 LSA
6 Speed Manual Transmission
Heavy Duty Driveline
Magnetic Ride Control
Brembo Brakes
Electric Power Steering
Track Ready Cooling Systems
Aggressive bodywork, including vented hood, Transformers 3 style bumper, special wheels
New steering wheel and interior trim with nice silver accents throughout
02-09-2011 | 10:10 AM
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Re: Well it looks like ZL1 won out over Z28!
It shows it on the huge GM banner they put up at the Chicago car show. Someone snapped some pics of the banners with pics of the car.http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128387 if linking isn't cool I apologize, here is the link to the pics.
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=796726
02-09-2011 | 10:10 AM
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Re: Well it looks like ZL1 won out over Z28!
Other info:
Drivetrain and Performance Details
6.2L Supercharged LSA engine
"At least 550hp and 550tq"
Upgraded TR6060 6-speed manual (no auto available!)
3.73 Rear gear ratio
Magnetic Ride Control
Dual-mode exhaust (similar to Corvette Z06)
Brakes: F: Brembo 6-piston 14.6" 2-piece rotors* R: Brembo 4-piston 14.4" rotors
Unique forged aluminum wheels: F: 20x10* R: 20x11
Tires: Goodyear Supercar F2, F: 285/35-20* R: 305/35-20
Upgraded driveshaft
Electric power steering
Appearance Details
Unique hood with functional carbon-fiber extractors
Unique front bumper with vertical fog lamps and DRLs and functional front splitter
Unique side rocker extensions
Unique rear diffuser
Unique rear spoiler
ZL1 badging
Interior Details
Suede seat inserts, ZL1 logo stitched into headrests
Suede dash/IP insert
Optional suede steering wheel and shifter (similar to CTS-V)
Alloy pedals
Dual power seats
Door and dash inserts are Carbon Flash with Red light accent
New steering wheel
Rear camera in rearview mirror
Auxiliary gauges will include a boost guage
Price and Ordering Details
Ordering information will be available in 4th Quarter 2011
Production will begin in 1st Quarter 2012
Pricing has yet to be determined.
Drivetrain and Performance Details
6.2L Supercharged LSA engine
"At least 550hp and 550tq"
Upgraded TR6060 6-speed manual (no auto available!)
3.73 Rear gear ratio
Magnetic Ride Control
Dual-mode exhaust (similar to Corvette Z06)
Brakes: F: Brembo 6-piston 14.6" 2-piece rotors* R: Brembo 4-piston 14.4" rotors
Unique forged aluminum wheels: F: 20x10* R: 20x11
Tires: Goodyear Supercar F2, F: 285/35-20* R: 305/35-20
Upgraded driveshaft
Electric power steering
Appearance Details
Unique hood with functional carbon-fiber extractors
Unique front bumper with vertical fog lamps and DRLs and functional front splitter
Unique side rocker extensions
Unique rear diffuser
Unique rear spoiler
ZL1 badging
Interior Details
Suede seat inserts, ZL1 logo stitched into headrests
Suede dash/IP insert
Optional suede steering wheel and shifter (similar to CTS-V)
Alloy pedals
Dual power seats
Door and dash inserts are Carbon Flash with Red light accent
New steering wheel
Rear camera in rearview mirror
Auxiliary gauges will include a boost guage
Price and Ordering Details
Ordering information will be available in 4th Quarter 2011
Production will begin in 1st Quarter 2012
Pricing has yet to be determined.
02-09-2011 | 10:10 AM
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Re: Well it looks like ZL1 won out over Z28!
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8 a.m. MAMA/Chicago Auto Show Breakfast Keynote address
9:15 a.m. Chevrolet
9:45 a.m. Hyundai
10:15 a.m. Volkswagen
10:45 a.m. Acura
11:15 a.m. Dodge
12:40p.m. Economic Club of Chicago Luncheon
1:30 p.m. Suzuki
2 p.m. RAM
2:30 p.m. Shelby Cars
3 p.m. Continental—Technology Conference
3:30 p.m. MotorWeek—“Drivers Choice Awards” and reception
02-09-2011 | 10:13 AM
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Re: Well it looks like ZL1 won out over Z28!
Sure, now go ahead and post this link over there and see how well received it is.
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=796726
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=796726