What Can The Z/28 Be
07-22-2008 | 06:02 PM
#32
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The Z28 should be what it's history and heritage has almost always been: a quick car at home on a race course. Basically what the 1LE was later.
Not only special suspension rates, but power steering coolers, brake cooling systems, special handling parts, a tougher rear end, upgraded brakes, things that enable you to take it to a course and really go to town without something breaking, overheating, or falling off, or costing more than a few grand as a package.
Not only special suspension rates, but power steering coolers, brake cooling systems, special handling parts, a tougher rear end, upgraded brakes, things that enable you to take it to a course and really go to town without something breaking, overheating, or falling off, or costing more than a few grand as a package.
If GM were to create a LSA powered Camaro, charge $40K+ for it, make less than 5K per year, all combined to virturally ensure not only dealer scalping but rarity on par with proven Elvis sightings, it should be called ZL1. That model designation's history would be dead on.
07-22-2008 | 07:54 PM
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07-22-2008 | 08:42 PM
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The Z28 should be essentially a new version of the 1-LE package.
To be honest, I am appalled at the idea the Z28 was going to be a high priced GT500 competitor. An overpowered, extremely limited production monstrosity for well off Camaro fans and collectors for car shows, occasional track runs, and climate controled garages. What I found even more appalling was so many people who would never have one bemoaning the idea that it might not reach production. This type of car IS NOT a Z28.... and it never was!
The Z28 should be what it's history and heritage has almost always been: a quick car at home on a race course. Basically what the 1LE was later.
Not only special suspension rates, but power steering coolers, brake cooling systems, special handling parts, a tougher rear end, upgraded brakes, things that enable you to take it to a course and really go to town without something breaking, overheating, or falling off, or costing more than a few grand as a package.
If GM were to create a LSA powered Camaro, charge $40K+ for it, make less than 5K per year, all combined to virturally ensure not only dealer scalping but rarity on par with proven Elvis sightings, it should be called ZL1. That model designation's history would be dead on.
To be honest, I am appalled at the idea the Z28 was going to be a high priced GT500 competitor. An overpowered, extremely limited production monstrosity for well off Camaro fans and collectors for car shows, occasional track runs, and climate controled garages. What I found even more appalling was so many people who would never have one bemoaning the idea that it might not reach production. This type of car IS NOT a Z28.... and it never was!
The Z28 should be what it's history and heritage has almost always been: a quick car at home on a race course. Basically what the 1LE was later.
Not only special suspension rates, but power steering coolers, brake cooling systems, special handling parts, a tougher rear end, upgraded brakes, things that enable you to take it to a course and really go to town without something breaking, overheating, or falling off, or costing more than a few grand as a package.
If GM were to create a LSA powered Camaro, charge $40K+ for it, make less than 5K per year, all combined to virturally ensure not only dealer scalping but rarity on par with proven Elvis sightings, it should be called ZL1. That model designation's history would be dead on.
07-22-2008 | 10:26 PM
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I think the Z28 should go to a dealer installed package. Which might include stuff like:
-Fiberglass hood
-More aggressive front spoiler and aero package
-Light weight wheels/ Racier tires
-Z28 Stripes and badges
-Suspension bolt on goodies
-Recaros
-Race belts
-Pedal Pads
-better brakes
-some more HP maybe with CAI or headers or both.
-Bolt in cage/rollbar
Of course they are probably going to offer a lot of this as accessories at least from what I have read.
-Fiberglass hood
-More aggressive front spoiler and aero package
-Light weight wheels/ Racier tires
-Z28 Stripes and badges
-Suspension bolt on goodies
-Recaros
-Race belts
-Pedal Pads
-better brakes
-some more HP maybe with CAI or headers or both.
-Bolt in cage/rollbar
Of course they are probably going to offer a lot of this as accessories at least from what I have read.
07-23-2008 | 01:17 AM
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the easiest and cheapest way to go would be drop a supercharger on the SS and add a Z/28 badge...i would not make the boost no more the 4 to 6ish psi for warranty and longevity reasons...GM has no business at this point to try and totally mimic the 69 Z/28 of yore..i guess they could shave a few pounds by removing sound deadner and such but any more then that makes the Z/28 a non seller...face facts..at $50k a pop for these things the old farts will want power options and barco lounger seats so it is in my mind unrealistic to think GM should do more then just slap a supercharger on a base SS and call the damn thing a Z/28...the biggest problem is so few inside GM understand how to get product out the door that the consumer actually wants..what makes you think they will do so now?
07-23-2008 | 02:53 AM
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-More aggressive front spoiler and aero package
-Light weight wheels/ Racier tires
-Z28 Stripes and badges
-Suspension bolt on goodies
-Recaros
-Race belts
-Pedal Pads
-better brakes
-some more HP maybe with CAI or headers or both.
-Bolt in cage/rollbar
Of course they are probably going to offer a lot of this as accessories at least from what I have read.
07-23-2008 | 04:39 AM
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If anything I think the Z28 should have been the 400hp V8. Z28 should not be above the SS. The SS should always be the top designation in the model line up.
Sorry guys, but thats they way it is.
Oh and GM isn't going to bring in a Z28 thats a Corvette killer.
Sorry guys, but thats they way it is.
Oh and GM isn't going to bring in a Z28 thats a Corvette killer.
07-23-2008 | 12:17 PM
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07-23-2008 | 02:34 PM
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07-23-2008 | 02:41 PM
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I don't think anyone said it would be a Corvette killer or super car, but I think it will be a "special" Camaro just like the first one was. In the first gen. the SS was always the boulevardier/straight line muscle whereas the Z/28 was the road racer. I'm hoping they'll stick with that for the new Z/28 when it appears.
07-23-2008 | 05:35 PM
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07-23-2008 | 06:11 PM
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The Z should be the bottom V8 Camaro, Period. The SS should be the upgraded package. I'm actually discouraged by the fact that there isn't any info out on the Z28 yet. Why did GM swap the Z28 and SS in rank?
IMO- If GM makes a Vett Killer package, it will be a very limited edition and most of us won't hear about it until it's already sold out. It doesn't make good buisness sense to compete with yourself. On the other hand, dealers like Yenko and Berger have done some pretty nice things in the past with the F-body. Maybe a little factory support for this type of dealer package could go a long way. A few ZL1 motors installed at the dealer would get some attention. Unfortunatly, I don't expect that. I typically see a dealer installed package as something that includes decals, badges and other basics (foo foo stuff).