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Old 06-16-2008 | 02:45 PM
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I still don't know why we think the Z/28 will be the top model and will come with a supercharged V-8.
I think that's just speculation.
I don't think anybody from GM has come out and said that, have they?
Because that's how it's going to end up

Of course everything at the moment is speculation, but if you're good at reading between the lines, everything points to the Z/28 being the top model.
Old 06-16-2008 | 02:49 PM
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You're talking about 4 engines for one car (and for marginal gains/losses in power and fuel economy). Think about it.
Old 06-16-2008 | 03:09 PM
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Everything is speculation right now, but the information available on this site is far more credible than anything the magazines publish.


...that is, unless the magazines take the info from sites like this.
Old 06-16-2008 | 03:59 PM
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What is the Latest 'reliable' model lineup?
There isn't one and never has been.

It's almost time though!
Old 06-16-2008 | 05:41 PM
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Hopefully we get a V8 under 30K, a V6 with 300+hp and trim levels of Camaro,
Carmaro RS, Camaro SS and Z28. I really hope they don't stick LS and LT on this car. Please don't
do that!!!
Old 06-16-2008 | 07:03 PM
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i heard somewhere about a legendary ZL-1 option that is suppose to be a z06 killer? but of course i think i read it in a motortrend mag or car&driver mag that was sitting out while waiting for my tires
Old 06-16-2008 | 07:16 PM
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I really hope they don't stick LS and LT on this car. Please don't
do that!!!
They use it on the Corvette.......
Old 06-17-2008 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by scottycamaroz28
i heard somewhere about a legendary ZL-1 option that is suppose to be a z06 killer? but of course i think i read it in a motortrend mag or car&driver mag that was sitting out while waiting for my tires
I don't think GM would make a car that would surpass the Z06, unless it was another Corvette like the ZR1.
Old 06-17-2008 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by skorpion317
Because that's how it's going to end up

Of course everything at the moment is speculation, but if you're good at reading between the lines, everything points to the Z/28 being the top model.
Please show me the lines that we're reading between that indicates that the Z/28 will be the top model.

Maybe I was sick that day.
Old 06-17-2008 | 01:54 PM
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Please show me the lines that we're reading between that indicates that the Z/28 will be the top model.

Maybe I was sick that day.
Insiders have said it's a done deal. Scott has implied things before, if I remember right. At this point I would be quite surprised if the SS is the top Camaro again.
Old 06-17-2008 | 05:26 PM
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Back to the subject of the V-6 cadillac engine. In the Cadillac line the direct injection 300 hp version is a $2000 option over the same block rated at 265 without benefit of direct injection. So do you really believe the 300 hp version would be the standard engine in the Camaro? I don't think so....especially in light of the fact that GM has said publicly "the future of the Camaro is the V-6". If GM can advertise the price at $2000 less to get everyone in the showroom and then slip in an extra cost for the premium hp V-6 they will do it. Its all about the Benjamins folks! And the 265 hp version is no dog in the CTS, so a customer would be very happy on a test drive with it.
I'm just hoping there will be something stronger than the LS3 available in the convertible by the time it finally comes out.
Old 06-17-2008 | 11:02 PM
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Back to the subject of the V-6 cadillac engine. In the Cadillac line the direct injection 300 hp version is a $2000 option over the same block rated at 265 without benefit of direct injection.
But it's not just the engine...it comes standard with an Auto-tranny, too; a 1000+ dollar option in the Corvette. The entry-level model does not. Plus, I'm sure there's a little premium in there just for getting the "better model".
So you're looking at more like 500-1,000 dollar increase between the two engines.

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So do you really believe the 300 hp version would be the standard engine in the Camaro? I don't think so....especially in light of the fact that GM has said publicly "the future of the Camaro is the V-6".
And you provided my reasoning, too. "The future of the Camaro is in the V-6". So why start with a normal engine, when you can really get a leg up on your competition, and offer a 'cutting-edge' direct injected version? One that makes 40% more power, and 12% better mileage than it's closest competitor?

The mileage alone, I think, would be a big part in this decision. And like I said above, the price difference really isn't that bad between the two, considering what you get.
Old 06-18-2008 | 09:26 AM
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I don't think that the DI motor will be an option in the Caddys for long. I think it will be "the" 3.6 in the near future. It's standard in all of the Lambdas for 2009 and GM recently announced that it's drastically ramping up HFV6 production. I'd imagine in the long run it will be cheaper to make ALL DI motors rather than producing two different ones. I guess the 3.0 DI mentioned for the CTS Wagon could show up...
Old 06-18-2008 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by detroitboy
Back to the subject of the V-6 cadillac engine. In the Cadillac line the direct injection 300 hp version is a $2000 option over the same block rated at 265 without benefit of direct injection. So do you really believe the 300 hp version would be the standard engine in the Camaro? I don't think so....especially in light of the fact that GM has said publicly "the future of the Camaro is the V-6".
Good points. If that is the case, then I suspect the DI V6 will be standard on Camaro LT, whereas the base Camaro LS will get the lesser of the V6s. Assuming there are two V6s, of which I'm currently not convinced there is even a need for more than one.
Old 06-18-2008 | 10:00 PM
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They use it on the Corvette.......
Corvette's trim are all LT. 1LT to 4LT for Non Z06 or ZR1 trims

Originally Posted by detroitboy
Back to the subject of the V-6 cadillac engine. In the Cadillac line the direct injection 300 hp version is a $2000 option over the same block rated at 265 without benefit of direct injection. So do you really believe the 300 hp version would be the standard engine in the Camaro? I don't think so....especially in light of the fact that GM has said publicly "the future of the Camaro is the V-6". If GM can advertise the price at $2000 less to get everyone in the showroom and then slip in an extra cost for the premium hp V-6 they will do it. Its all about the Benjamins folks! And the 265 hp version is no dog in the CTS, so a customer would be very happy on a test drive with it.
I'm just hoping there will be something stronger than the LS3 available in the convertible by the time it finally comes out.
Ok, think this out.
The 34k CTS gets a 300hp DI 3.6
But teh 23k Traverse gets a 291hp DI 3.6 V6.
Do I belive the Camaro will get the 300hp 3.6? Yes.
#1- the zero loss in fuel econ with the increase in performance is amazing. The slight increase in cost will be spread out now that more and more GM's HF V6's will get the direct injection.
#2- The CTS with di 3.6 gets 26mpg highway with a 4100lb curb weight. Put that in a 3700lbs Camaro and you could maybe see 30mpg? Id say closer to 28mpg highway, but thats a fantastic number, considering you are making some 300hp.


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