I"m afraid were going to end up what we had in the 4th gen and the mustang. CAmaro stops better,better gas MPG and faster. But cost several grand more. Therefore the mustang won sales hands down. The ecnomy is in the dumpster, and if most people can get a 2011 mustang for like 4 grand less than a camaro. There most of the time going to get the mustang. They dont' care about top speed etc. Having 300+ HP and get around town will be plenty enough.

I hope the 5th gen all the best luck and I don't think I"ll buy one since 34k out the door is too much for a poor mans car. YOu can get a used c5 Z06 for 25k now and be super nice. I know its not etc.

I just hope GM dont' go under. I hope they sell good.

ON a side a not eI think it looks like a lot like the Challenger, even though the camaro may have been desiged first, but last to markert....anway I guess I'm babbling.

Regards

 

Nice that YOU can afford it, but I remember the 4thgen actually cost $17,900 MSRP when it first came out in '93... and while that was a long time ago and they made some improvements over the years, the only 4th gen cars worth anywhere close to a $30,000 MSRP were loaded LS-1 convertibles ... and that was still over-priced. You don't have to be Socrates to deduce that their over-pricing is one of the principle reasons that people stopped buying them.

To put it another way, many WORKING people right now are lucky to afford a roof over their heads... if GM won't give them a $20,000 pony car, then Ford will --- and can --- continue to sell new and used Mustangs all day long while GM declares bankruptcy.[/QUOTE]

 

You can't get a Mustang GT for $20,000.

Have you heard of inflation? It's been 17 years since the 4th gen came out. At a typical inflation rate of 4%, prices should double every 18 years. Camaro has done less than that.

It's not GM's fault that average wages haven't kept up with inflation.

 

I just needed to say i looked at my window sticker from my 2005 gto
which is very close to what you get with a 1 ss

the window was 32640 plus tax
my 1ss rs is 32900
so you give up the leather and 6 disc changer
top off the line hadling both years
top of the line power both years
and same price

that is all i have on this other than my gto sat on the lot for a year
and i bought it for 26500

David

 

I think that's called "the market sets the price"... exactly what I'm talking about.

 

be grateful they even brought the camaro back to life

 

LOL at guys comparing a 1993 MSRP to today and cars that sat on a lot for a year to MSRP. Mustang is right up there with Camaro. Maybe a thousand less, but with all other things aside, the 100hp difference would sway most buyers. And anyone who couldnt easily swing a $500 car payment shouldnt even be looking at a new car like this, thats why we are in the bank crisis we have.

 

Well, I built a 2SS on Chevy's website, IBM, RS, and it 's MSRP is $35,850.

Went to Ford, and built as close to an identical Mustang as I could, and this is what it was:



Sure, I could have built the 'stang with less options, but then, I'd compare it to a 1SS. In all honesty, I'm not sure I can justify spending $35,000 on a pony car right now. May have to go with a G8 GT for practicallity, or at least the Chally for the room. Just some thoughts..not saying one car is better than the other, I like things about all 3 of the new pony cars!

 

The price of cars has gone up every year since I can remember while incomes have stayed about the same. No bailout is going to stop what is going to happen.

 

with proper budgeting u can afford anything your heart desires

 

It's a 111hp difference, and no, most buyers don't give a ****.

 

LOL! I just hope there a LOT of you who are more than willing and able to buy these babies at $30,000 a pop, because --- our own desires aside --- GM needs to sell at least 80,000 a year or it's bye bye GM as we know it, because...

...remember --- those 80,000 per-year sales will only go DOWN every subsequent year... In fact, if you think they're such a good deal, buy TWO like that guy with the twin red ones for he and his wife!

 

Sure, don't get the Camaro. Camaro owners have always need more Mudstains on the road to humiliate. You can re-live the good ole days of Vanilla Ice singing, oh, wait, that was more humilliation.

Seriously, the v6 Camaro will be equal to the small v8 mustang in price and performance and get 20% better gas mileage. And that's with the Camaro having all the good options of a 6 speed auto and 20" wheels. Wait a bit for the Camaro rebates to kick in, read the reviews, then drive both before you decide.

Hal

 

Hey, no, I hope they only sell a few and I have one

Hal

 

How do you figure? Most guys who dont know cars would look at that and say screw 315hp, I want 400+, Its obviously alot faster. For the uneducated, I want a fast car public, that would sway them alot.