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Old 01-22-2006 | 02:47 PM
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Re: What an ugly Camaro concept -- have they seen the Dodge Challenger concept?

Originally Posted by mh12345
People will care when the Camaro fails to catch on with the general public and Chevy cancels it again -- for good. Look at the survey. If Chevy can't get 99% of us saying it's the greatest thing we've ever seen, what will the general public feel about it? We're Camaro fans!

It's not too late though. Chevy can tweak it a bit but they need to be BETTER than the competition. They need something that will turn heads and make people HAVE to have it. My first Camaro, which I still have in my garage, is a '94 Z28. Now that was a real eye catching machine and a good value.

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Maybe you missed my first post.....

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Your opinion doesn’t make for a very good argument.
Old 01-22-2006 | 02:51 PM
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You dont like it, we get it. I personally like the new mustang, but dont like the Challenger. Its too smooth, too sleek, and just too big.

Now its okay you dont like it - but realize both are concept cars and will change before production. The challenger will probably get more lines and edges in it before it hits production, the Camaro might get fewer. Who knows.

Also the new camaro isnt meant to look that retro (did you read any of the memos about it?) and again, the Camaro stole the show.
Retro is in -- big mistake not to go retro.
Old 01-22-2006 | 02:58 PM
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Re: What an ugly Camaro concept -- have they seen the Dodge Challenger concept?

Originally Posted by mh12345
Retro is in -- big mistake not to go retro.
Can you 100% guaranty retro will still be in 5, 10, 15 years from now? Assuming GM oks the Camaro, it will be at least 2008 before we see one, probably as a 2009 Camaro. Will retro still be in then?
Old 01-22-2006 | 03:09 PM
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Can you 100% guaranty retro will still be in 5, 10, 15 years from now? Assuming GM oks the Camaro, it will be at least 2008 before we see one, probably as a 2009 Camaro. Will retro still be in then?
Ask Barrett Jackson.
Old 01-22-2006 | 03:15 PM
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where does camaro go after this retro bodystyle?
Old 01-22-2006 | 03:15 PM
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Your opinion doesn’t make for a very good argument.
Problem is, the opinion of the general public will determine if Camaro is back for good or not. Look at the polls on this forum. Why can't they get 99% of us to say it's the greatest thing we've ever seen?
Old 01-22-2006 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mh12345
Ask Barrett Jackson.
Actually, I've been following B-J. The original unrestored musclecars are making the big bucks. The customized musclecars and hotrods aren't selling for what it cost to build them.

What does the unmolested original musclecar market have to do with a modern "retrosyled" musclecar inspired concept car?

You still haven't answered the question though.
Can you guaranty retro will still be in 5, 10, 15 years from now?
Old 01-22-2006 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mh12345
Why can't they get 99% of us to say it's the greatest thing we've ever seen?
What's the current percentage who like it/don't like it?
Old 01-22-2006 | 03:21 PM
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Actually, I've been following B-J. The original unrestored musclecars are making the big bucks. The customized musclecars and hotrods aren't selling for what it cost to build them.

What does the unmolested original musclecar market have to do with a modern "retrosyled" musclecar inspired concept car?

You still haven't answered the question though.
Can you guaranty retro will still be in 5, 10, 15 years from now?
I answered the question and you supported my answer in your reply.
Old 01-22-2006 | 03:25 PM
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Re: What an ugly Camaro concept -- have they seen the Dodge Challenger concept?

Originally Posted by mh12345
Why can't they get 99% of us to say it's the greatest thing we've ever seen?
AAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHHA

I hope this is a joke thread. I really do. Because you have got to be kidding me. You come in here acting like an expert on all things relating to public opinion. Wow, you must have companies gunning for you!! hahahahah.

Do you think the mustang got 99% of people liking it? Or the Challenger? Even among fans of either car? Do you know how many mustang guys hate 05's? I went to a dyno yesterday with ALL mustang guys, and most hated on the 05's. I'm sorry, but you know nothing of how people think, or about the world around you, so if I were you I wouldn't start with something so complex as public reaction/opinion to a new product and how that reflects overall sales. Stick to simple things, like breathing, and chewing gum and walking at the same time. YOU do that, then I'll be impressed.

I hate to single people out like this, but this is just too funny. Surprisingly, in saying this, I'm not defending either of the 3 cars discussed in this thread.
Old 01-22-2006 | 03:26 PM
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Re: What an ugly Camaro concept -- have they seen the Dodge Challenger concept?

Originally Posted by mh12345
I answered the question and you supported my answer in your reply.
Didn't you also make another thread saying the Camaro should be more modern like the Ford GT? Seems that you can't make up your own mind.
Old 01-22-2006 | 03:26 PM
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What's the current percentage who like it/don't like it?
Almost 65% give it a 9 or 10. About 84% give it an 8 or better. Given that we're Camaro fans and we're dying for a new Camaro, I don't see that as a positive thing.
Old 01-22-2006 | 03:28 PM
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Out of thousands of people registered on this site, only 550 have voted, and you think that that's a realistic figure?
Old 01-22-2006 | 03:29 PM
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84% just goes to show that there are a few idiots on this website.
Old 01-22-2006 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MarcR94v6
AAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHHA

I hope this is a joke thread. I really do. Because you have got to be kidding me. You come in here acting like an expert on all things relating to public opinion. Wow, you must have companies gunning for you!! hahahahah.

Do you think the mustang got 99% of people liking it? Or the Challenger? Even among fans of either car? Do you know how many mustang guys hate 05's? I went to a dyno yesterday with ALL mustang guys, and most hated on the 05's. I'm sorry, but you know nothing of how people think, or about the world around you, so if I were you I wouldn't start with something so complex as public reaction/opinion to a new product and how that reflects overall sales. Stick to simple things, like breathing, and chewing gum and walking at the same time. YOU do that, then I'll be impressed.

I hate to single people out like this, but this is just too funny. Surprisingly, in saying this, I'm not defending either of the 3 cars discussed in this thread.
Let me ask you this -- do you think there's something wrong when less than 65% of the Camaro fans that post here give it a 9 or 10? Think about it -- Camaro is gone and we want it back, desperately. They could put wheels on a box and get 65% saying it's a 9 or 10. And that's what they've done... Why does this concern me so? Because if they cancel Camaro again, because or poor sales, it won't be back. Will the general public buy this Camaro over the Mustang or Challenger? I fear not.

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