Im not saying either way is better, but whats the deal with some peoples extreme dislike for the possibility of a B-Pillar? I guess im just not able to picture how the concept would look with one. Has anyone photchopped a B-Pillar onto the concept? Also, does the 4th gen have a B-Pillar? I was under the impression that the windshield 'frame' was the A-Pillar and the rear was the C-Pillar? Im probably under wrong assumptions (and we all know what those are) but please feel free to enlighten me.

 

I saw a photo chop with the B pillar. I know the lines are completely different but honestly, at first glance a 5th gen camaro with a B pillar looks too much like a mustang.

 

Yes, and it looks stupid on the Camaro concept.

No rear side window, or one separated from the door window by metal equals b-pillar.

Every generation Camaro, except for the 1st generation has had no rear side window, and thusly, a b-pillar.

I'm not saying Camaro shouldn't have a b-pillar. I'm just saying this particular Camaro shouldn't.

Exactly why it doesn't need one, nor would you want it to have one.

 

Getting a little extreme here for an internet rumor don't you all think?

Guys, Monte Carlo has a "B" pillar. So does Cobalt. But you don't notice them. Even if Camarp does get a B-pillar, it's going to be visually like the concept car, so perish the though of those unimaginative photochopped pics.

The only advantage of not having a b-pillar is that you can have roll down rear windows, which the convertible will in all likelihood have.

Gee, the internet is a pretty screamish place, huh?

 

Actually.. did a photoshop. While the rear window does add a hell of a lot of style to the car (and i'm not much for rear windows, i should add).. it really doesn't make it look anymore mustangish at all, really. Especially comparing it side by side next to a mustang.. it looks more like a corvette than a mustang

The windows give it a nice sexy Aston Martin look to it. The car also wouldn't look as good if the windows weren't tinted. Also, with the windows removed.. you have more of a blindspot

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/7...oncepts192.jpg
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/7...titled20gq.jpg -- ZOOMED OUT
quick ****ty photoshop of it.


Of course, let's not forget a few things
1) The camaro IS there to rival the mustang. It was back in the day, and it is now. Visually, they did share some common elements back in the day. Since these cars are retro.. you'd imagine they would share some elements, too.

2) The mustang has sold many many cars.. having a car look slightly similar to it wouldn't be a bad thing really.

Personally.. after seeing the camaro, the mustang is BLAND as hell and very boring looking.


---edit: just realized you guys are meaning to KEEP the rear window, but just put a divider inplace.. that would be stupid in my opinion. Either keep the window like it is, or get rid of it entirely, IMO.

 

I dont get the b-pillar hate myself. Its like some people are running out of things to argue about. If a b-pillar is necessary to get a t-top or targa option then it looks like the car needs a b-pillar. Will anyone notice if theres a b-pillar added? Probably not, we'll know its there but does it make a difference? You bet it doesnt. Its no different then complaining that the production version wont have 14" discs all the way around and absurdly large wheels like the concept. Frankly I'd be more concerned about stopping than a thin piece of metal added behind the doors along with different and smaller wheels that will alter the car's look exponentially more than the almighty b-pillar. There's actually important things to worry about the 5th gen having/not having.

 

a b-pillar would hardly be noticed if you tinted the rear window a good bit.

 

Im no engineer here guys(I study trees for petes sake) but wouldnt it be possible to add some kind of temporary support for the roof when the top is off? Like say they made the car a targa top instead of T-Top, which honestly I dont many people would mind the difference, I for one would like it more. Anyways, if its a Targa, engineer the rear window to have an integral part of the structure ride up and down with it, so that when the window is in the up position, this piece of the structrue locks into the roof, thus, strenghtening it. Like, it would be a semi-permanent B-Pillar and when the Targa is off, the rear window much automatically be up, to provide added support. However, with the top on, the rear window can come down.

Flame away guys!!! Not gonna lie, this is prolly one of the stupidest ideas ive come up with, but hey, who knows!

 

That's one helluva blind spot you chopped in. Someone needs to try this while leaving in the window and blacking out the b-pillar (if this hasn't been done already).

 

The C-pillar was the main reason I took such a disliking to the concept. Modern sports cars just don't have those anymore. Furthermore, that design doesn't allow for T-Tops and as mentioned above filling in the 1/4 windows would lead to one hell of a blind spot.

Here's a photochop I started working on a while back. I was trying to make the car a little more contemporary while allowing for T-Tops and keeping the heritage cues. Essentially the car is less fastback and more Z06. The rear 1/4 windows remain but the B-pillar should bear loads better and make T-Tops possible. Another benefit to this design is easier trunk access and less rear windshield glare.
hybrid B-pillar

 

Ok, so I took up the challenge myself. Here are two variations with t-tops (blacked-out around windshield and body colored) with a blacked-out "hidden" b-pillar overlapping the rear side windows since it seems a given that a b-pillar will be necessary for t-tops. The rear side windows could be fixed or made to hinge open slightly. I also continued the lines of the "double-bubble" into the t-tops themselves.

T-Top #1

T-Top #2


I think it could be pulled off...

 

Why do T-Tops need to be glass? Couldnt they be steel or whatever the body is made out of and have them be body colored? I think that would make the roof look alot more natural.

 

being able to roll down the rear windows gives it a much more roomy look and feel with a better sight line. Having a blacked out B pillar would block your view where you would have the look of B pillar less car but worse sightlines than a 4th gen with the long doors. Your blind spot would run from the front of the B pillar to the C Pillar which would be directly behind it.

Yes Im biased, imagine these shots with blacked out B pillars

 

Yes, they could. I'm thinking along the lines of Corvette.. I believe you get a body colored targa top, and can buy a glass t-top from them..

So.. hopefully you can either get body-colored T-tops (fiberglass, lightweight? something like that), glass ones, or both.
Half the fun of t-tops is having the glass, though.

 

My ex had a 98 drop top Mustang and I have my 95 drop top. Hers has superior visibility, not by a lot, but by a noticed amount - because of those small windows.

I love them. When we were going out on a nice night but didnt want to put the top down, you could roll down the rear 1/4 windows totally and leave the others up and the top up - if she did something to her hair it wouldnt muss it up and still give a really nice breeze through the cabin. Also it just so happens if you open them slightly even on the highway during a light rain you also get the breeze but not much water gets in the car thanks to the body styling.

But again, if I bought a 5th gen it'd probably end up a convertible, so I'm all for the 1/4 windows. Also I BET they could make the B-Pillars fold down or drop down on convertible cars. When theres a will, theres a way.

To the "more of a Z06" photoshop - that looks like a neat idea.