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Old 02-17-2006 | 11:55 PM
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Why can't we?...

BVrider in the house! Ok,I've posted this in another thread but here's an argument I want to make. The Mustang has all these models GT,Saleen, Cobra etc. So why can't Camaro have all it's forms brought to the party?
A V6 model, mid-level V8, performance V8, and our SUPER V8? And moreover, why do they have to be SS and Z28? Can't they just be dubbed Camaro or how bout Camaro Z and Camaro S, or something different?Or why not have Z28 and SS both be the performance V8, both of them equal not better than the other, and then designate the Super Camaro as something totally different. Because as Camaro enthusiasts,we should be united.No division even if it's playful.In my mind the Camaro has been off the hill long enough...so to speak.And it's time for the Camaro to regain it's title and throne as the KING OF THE HILL! Do ya feel me? Just some thoughts of mine. And a little shout out to the homies who got love for the RS. And to all the Camaro lovers here.
Old 02-18-2006 | 12:26 AM
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The Camaro has had special designations from the factory and outside that were more than SS, RS and Z/28. In 1969 (And once in the 80s), Yenko Chevrolet produced Yenko Camaros with a 427 iron block and Yenko Decals. There have also been Baldwin Motion Camaros produced too. As well, there has been Berlinetta and IROC designation from the factory and the ZL-1, 1LE and B4C packages.

As it stands, unfortunately the car has not even officially been approved for production. I'm sure GM has something up its sleeve for when/if it does and we will be satisfied that there will be a GT fighter, a Saleen fighter and a Cobra fighter, even if outsourced to SLP, Baldwin or a Yenko equivalent.
Old 02-18-2006 | 03:25 AM
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using anything but RS, SS and Z28 is just plain wrong...and ridiculous. Either Z28 or SS will be top. We cannot decide, so just deal with it.

Volkswagon and Porsche use "S" BTW. These days alot of cars just have alpha numeric "names" dumb. Or trim levels, like "SE", "LX"--they don't REALLY mean very much.

Honda ****** out "Special editon" like its going out of style. And all it means are a/c, crusie and floormats for a few bucks off (something like that)

SS, RS and Z28 mean something and have incredible heritage. Abandoning that would be a very foolish move.

Chevy is using the SS name on others cars, (agree or disagree, they all have some pretty decent kick and don't break the bank!) so for the Camaro not to have an SS version makes no sense.
Old 02-18-2006 | 01:31 PM
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saleen is out of house, its just that Mustang has had more of a factory backing than Camaro.
Though Camaro had SLP..and so on.
If say Baldwin's new company came in and did an in house deal with GM to make factory back Baldwin Motion Camaros like Saleen...then you will get the idea.
The reason Mustang sold so many diffrent models is the popularity of the V6..you had the Cobra the MACh1 and so on they sold them cus there were so many base models sold.
Thats why you dont have 2 diffrent models of the GTO
Old 02-18-2006 | 01:38 PM
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I couldn't picture the new Camaro being badged with anything other then the RS, Z28, and SS plates.
Old 02-19-2006 | 09:33 PM
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Well, GM is going for a "modern car with retro inspiration" so perhaps a cool name for the extremely top end model may be due. I don't know, maybe a shout-out to pontiac by calling the GT-500 competition something like "Camaro Firehawk" or "Camaro Phoenix Edition" or "SuperHawke". Just some guesses here.
Old 02-19-2006 | 09:58 PM
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Porsche uses S for good reason. It is historically significant for that manufacturer.

At any rate, it makes sense to reuse the designations that people have come to know and love.
Old 02-20-2006 | 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by LandonElf
Well, GM is going for a "modern car with retro inspiration" so perhaps a cool name for the extremely top end model may be due. I don't know, maybe a shout-out to pontiac by calling the GT-500 competition something like "Camaro Firehawk" or "Camaro Phoenix Edition" or "SuperHawke". Just some guesses here.
Unfortunately, the Firebird guys would be calling for blood if "Firehawk" was on a Chevrolet, rather than a Pontiac. The Phoenix has been synonomous with the Firebird/Trans Am/Firehawk so I can't see it making an appearance on the Camaro. GTO, perhaps...
Old 02-20-2006 | 02:54 PM
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What about a trim level of a base "Camaro" like LS or LT. Like the rest of Chevy cars and trucks. With a T-Tiny small badge to designate it.
Old 02-20-2006 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by graham
What about a trim level of a base "Camaro" like LS or LT. Like the rest of Chevy cars and trucks. With a T-Tiny small badge to designate it.
NO NO NO! LS and LT are just plain gay
Old 02-20-2006 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 305fan
using anything but RS, SS and Z28 is just plain wrong...and ridiculous. Either Z28 or SS will be top. We cannot decide, so just deal with it.
I beg to differ, I think we might see a zl1 as the top , which I would love to see. But I dont know about the LT or LS, I dont like that idea, although there was a camaro LT back durring the second gens, so i dont think it wouldnt be horrible to see something other than RS, SS, and Z/28, as long as it has been used before. (LT, maybe Berlinetta, etc)

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Old 02-20-2006 | 06:02 PM
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I mean it in a way like all the other cars use it.

You dont hear anyone say "I have an '06 Impala LS" or "03 Chevy Silverado LT." That part is left out. They would just be for base Camaro with premium interior trim and sound equpment.
Old 02-21-2006 | 11:25 AM
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why are you people making such a huge deal about this???

it is this easy...

Camaro = V6 base
RS = V6 (or mid-level v8) + Cosmetic add-ons
Z28 = V8 (probably ls2) + Bigger wheels all that good stuff.
SS = Z28 plus nicer hood, wheels etc.
ZL1= Cobra killer. (with a detuned LS7 ie 10 horses less than the Z06 )

that's a little for everyone to be happy with. You have your base v-6 for everyone.. a mid level v8 and high-performance V8 and the overkill ZL1 for anything Ford or Dodge might try to fight us with.

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Old 02-21-2006 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by jcamere94z28
why are you people making such a huge deal about this???
Because LS2 and LS7 will be all but dead when Camaro returns.
Old 02-21-2006 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jg95z28
Because LS2 and LS7 will be all but dead when Camaro returns.
well, whatever these engines get replaced with plus the issue in this thread wasn't about the engines but the trim levels.



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