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Old 04-30-2009 | 07:13 PM
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Z28 in the beginning?

Was there a Z28 when the Camaro came out in 1966? And can there be a Z28 SS?
Old 04-30-2009 | 10:22 PM
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There was a Z28 for the 1967 model year, which was the first year for the Camaro.
Old 05-01-2009 | 07:32 AM
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Z28 in 1967 was not a model. I was an option code. The Z/28 model didn't come into being until 1969.

And yes, there was a SS Z28. 1996.
Old 05-02-2009 | 07:50 PM
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Thank you. Always getting confused, lol
Old 05-02-2009 | 08:02 PM
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Why not? They let the Camaro name languish for nearly a decade. And not for lack of demand.
Production of the 4th gen. was stopped for lack of demand. So maybe your point is there was demand, but there wasn't enough to justify a plant dedicated to only Camaro/Firebird?
Old 05-03-2009 | 08:05 AM
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Z28 in 1967 was not a model. I was an option code. The Z/28 model didn't come into being until 1969.

And yes, there was a SS Z28. 1996.
Quote from "Camaro Exposed 1967-1969" by Paul Zazarine: "Tagged as the next RPO after the Z27 SS Camaro Super Sport Option Package, the 302 Special Performance Equipment Option was designated Z/28, which was quickly accepted as the model name for this new race-oriented Camaro. The Z/28 was released to the press for first driving impressions at Riverside Raceway in November 1966."

That would seem to contradict your opinion. As well, Z/28 emblems appeared on 1968 models. The Z27 SS was also an "option code", having an option code does not mean there is not a corresponding model. And while there were SS Z/28s in later generations, they did not exist in the first two generations.
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Old 05-03-2009 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RobWilson
There was a Z28 for the 1967 model year, which was the first year for the Camaro.
Just to clarify, Z/28 for the '67 model year was a mid model year release that went into production in late December of 1966.
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Old 05-03-2009 | 10:54 AM
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There is a good article on the Z-28 in the April 2009 issue of Motor Trend with a picture of a hugger orange Z on the cover. To paraphrase the article: "the car is basically done but GM ran out of money" and "some inside the company are wondering whether selling a super-fast, super-powerful two door chevy coupe that will likely get no better than 13-19 mpg is the right thing to do for a company that has had to beg for money".

It would have the 6.2 ltr supercharged LSA V8 (556 hp @ 6100 rpm and 551 flbs torque @ 3800 rpm) and share the CTS-V six speed manual and auto tranny's.

If GM makes them they are probably going to be limited production, numbered models for collectors and some enthusiasts and priced to make a profit.

The new Z would compete against the mustang 500KR (which i've read ford has put on hold also) for bragging rights as to who really is "King of the Road"
Old 05-03-2009 | 04:28 PM
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There is a good article on the Z-28 in the April 2009 issue of Motor Trend with a picture of a hugger orange Z on the cover. To paraphrase the article: "the car is basically done but GM ran out of money" and "some inside the company are wondering whether selling a super-fast, super-powerful two door chevy coupe that will likely get no better than 13-19 mpg is the right thing to do for a company that has had to beg for money".

It would have the 6.2 ltr supercharged LSA V8 (556 hp @ 6100 rpm and 551 flbs torque @ 3800 rpm) and share the CTS-V six speed manual and auto tranny's.

If GM makes them they are probably going to be limited production, numbered models for collectors and some enthusiasts and priced to make a profit.

The new Z would compete against the mustang 500KR (which i've read ford has put on hold also) for bragging rights as to who really is "King of the Road"
So there is a Z28 roving around somewhere. Wonder how many they're thinking of releasing if they are at all
Old 05-03-2009 | 07:14 PM
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So there is a Z28 roving around somewhere.
sort of...the bumblebee camaro from the new transformers movie is based off a Z28 model that chevy made up
Old 05-03-2009 | 08:38 PM
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I keep saying this, but wait until GM makes a Cadillac CTS-V coupe before the half-price version shows up at Chevrolet.
Old 05-03-2009 | 09:19 PM
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God i hope it comes out. If and when it does i should have enough income coming in to purchase one .... And i will buy it.
Old 05-04-2009 | 10:57 AM
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Quote from "Camaro Exposed 1967-1969" by Paul Zazarine: "Tagged as the next RPO after the Z27 SS Camaro Super Sport Option Package, the 302 Special Performance Equipment Option was designated Z/28, which was quickly accepted as the model name for this new race-oriented Camaro. The Z/28 was released to the press for first driving impressions at Riverside Raceway in November 1966."

That would seem to contradict your opinion. As well, Z/28 emblems appeared on 1968 models. The Z27 SS was also an "option code", having an option code does not mean there is not a corresponding model. And while there were SS Z/28s in later generations, they did not exist in the first two generations.
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Zazarine's book is a nice read, although there are some inaccuracies. For instance RPO Z27 did not exist in MY 1967 or 1968. To get an SS 350 you had to select the engine RPO L48. To get the 396 you'd order L35 (325hp) or L78 (375hp). Also there were actually four Z28 RPOs. In 1967-8 RPO Z28-1 was the "base" Z28; Z28-2 included the air plenum; Z28-3 included headers; and Z28-4 included both the air plenum and headers.

Clyde is 100% correct on the badges. 1967 Z28s had no badges other than the fender mounted "camaro" badge. Early 1968 Z28s had 302 badges, which changed to "Z/28" after March 1968.
Old 05-04-2009 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 1LTV8
There is a good article on the Z-28 in the April 2009 issue of Motor Trend with a picture of a hugger orange Z on the cover. To paraphrase the article: "the car is basically done but GM ran out of money" and "some inside the company are wondering whether selling a super-fast, super-powerful two door chevy coupe that will likely get no better than 13-19 mpg is the right thing to do for a company that has had to beg for money".
You do realize that "picture" is just a Photoshop artist's rendition by MT and no "official" or "leaked" 5th Z/28 picture exists from GM.
Old 05-04-2009 | 01:38 PM
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Zazarine's book is a nice read, although there are some inaccuracies. For instance RPO Z27 did not exist in MY 1967 or 1968. To get an SS 350 you had to select the engine RPO L48. To get the 396 you'd order L35 (325hp) or L78 (375hp). Also there were actually four Z28 RPOs. In 1967-8 RPO Z28-1 was the "base" Z28; Z28-2 included the air plenum; Z28-3 included headers; and Z28-4 included both the air plenum and headers.

Clyde is 100% correct on the badges. 1967 Z28s had no badges other than the fender mounted "camaro" badge. Early 1968 Z28s had 302 badges, which changed to "Z/28" after March 1968.
I find listings for RPO Z27 SS in quite a few books and all over the net, are you sure it did not exist in '67/'68? The engine codes you mention were indeed for the correct engine you wanted with the SS package. I believe the '67 Z/28s had the V-8 flag emblems with 302 on them, all V-8s had the flag emblems with engine size. In '68 they did away with the flag emblems just in front of the door and put engine size badges (like the 302 you mention) on the front fender just at the nose of the car. I remember when I was getting ready to purchase my first Camaro, there was a burgundy Camaro with 302 V-8 flags and wide black Rally Stripes on the lot, no one seemed to know much about it (and I knew nothing about a 302 or a Z/28), so I ended up buying a '67 RS 327. I later found out what that 302 Z/28 was all about, so when I traded in '69 I bought a Z/28.
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