No doubt a Duratec would add afew hundred bucks to the price of a V6 Mustang. Certainly not afew thousand, and certainly not enough to price it with a 350Z.

 

You may be starting with wrong assumptions.

 

well i must just not get it. Me all of my freinds, and everyone that i know with an F body, got the Z28, if we wanted a "fast" car. Does it really matter if the v-6 has 230hp-or 265 hp? I don't get why people are all worked up over the "base" camaro. Of corse its not going to beat an LT1 Car, hell i bet it "may" run with the 350TPI cars. Can anyone shed some light on what im missing?

 

Because if the Camaro is to be successful, the base car needs to be fabulous. Not just a throw away model. It NEEDS to be good enough for alot of people to not only check it out, but to actually buy it.

And if the base V6 "only" feels like a 350TPI...that would be pretty fantastic, don't you think?

 

Maybe...

What's your guess?

 

We'll see an entry level push rod V6.

 

Very possible. If that happens, I'd expect abit more power out of the HFV6, than I quoted in my "assumption".

 

Like LS1 HP numbers?

 

Thereabouts.

 

I can't see the base outperforming a LT1 Fbody, especially an SS or WS6. Assuming an honest 285hp out of the V6, it's going to be down significantly on torque as mentioned by others, but it's going to be down on hp by 10-15 hp as well even to the early LT1s rated at 275 hp. LT1s are 300hp engines pretty much across the board, 250-260 rwhp from stock 6spd cars does not equal 275-285 crank hp... Weight is going to be the same or more on the new base, gearing is likely to less aggressive, overall suspension setup won't be as good, etc. I expect the new base to be nearly a half second slower through the 1/4 than a properly running and driven 6spd LT1 honestly...

But I think that will be pretty good, a mid 14 second base Camaro would be sweet. I hope it turns out the absolute base car is that good of a performer, because the 200ish hp level is just so tired now. If they make a 210ish base again like the current Mustang it will be disappointing, can't go anywhere these days without seeing a half dozen of the base poseur Mustangs all over the place. A 285ish hp base would be a good all around base Camaro that actually brings quite a bit of performance to the party for a change. Honestly though I'm expecting a 210-220hp true base model again, price will be the biggie IMO and I doubt a 285ish hp base will get it done, hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised. Blah

 

yes

 

Keep in mind, by then, grandma's Camry will probably have 260-280 hp.

 

David

 

well the car is a flagship and even base cars should live up to the name and perform like a car people would actually want to own.

 

That is why the base engine should be the Vortec 4200 I-6. I think the newest version has 291hp, by then it could be over 300. And you also get the reliability and strength of an I-6 as opposed to a V6. I mean they already make ****loads of those engines for Envoys and Trailblazers, it couldn't be that hard to steup up production a bit. You could even say it is a tribute to the 1st gen base models since they also sported I-6s.