Will the BASE 5th gen outperform ALL previous STOCK Camaros?
#31
Re: Will the BASE 5th gen outperform ALL previous STOCK Camaros?
Originally Posted by Plague
Rumor mills are fun Say they do. Then there would be a comparable V6 in the Camaro. But I don't think that will happen just yet. Just look at the 300hp 350z from Nissan. Starts at 27k. Maybe Ford will find away to put a better engine into the Mustang. Maybe they skimp on the tranny and suspension and base options, but the 350z is starting at the price of a Mustang GT.
Rumors are only rumors. I just want it to be 2009 so I can go get my car
Rumors are only rumors. I just want it to be 2009 so I can go get my car
#32
Re: Will the BASE 5th gen outperform ALL previous STOCK Camaros?
Originally Posted by Z284ever
...short of the LS1 F-bods.
First some assumptions.
-That the base motor will be a HF 3.6 of approximately 285 hp.
First some assumptions.
-That the base motor will be a HF 3.6 of approximately 285 hp.
#33
Re: Will the BASE 5th gen outperform ALL previous STOCK Camaros?
well i must just not get it. Me all of my freinds, and everyone that i know with an F body, got the Z28, if we wanted a "fast" car. Does it really matter if the v-6 has 230hp-or 265 hp? I don't get why people are all worked up over the "base" camaro. Of corse its not going to beat an LT1 Car, hell i bet it "may" run with the 350TPI cars. Can anyone shed some light on what im missing?
#34
Re: Will the BASE 5th gen outperform ALL previous STOCK Camaros?
Originally Posted by Killaz
Can anyone shed some light on what im missing?
And if the base V6 "only" feels like a 350TPI...that would be pretty fantastic, don't you think?
#37
Re: Will the BASE 5th gen outperform ALL previous STOCK Camaros?
Originally Posted by poSSum
We'll see an entry level push rod V6.
#40
Re: Will the BASE 5th gen outperform ALL previous STOCK Camaros?
I can't see the base outperforming a LT1 Fbody, especially an SS or WS6. Assuming an honest 285hp out of the V6, it's going to be down significantly on torque as mentioned by others, but it's going to be down on hp by 10-15 hp as well even to the early LT1s rated at 275 hp. LT1s are 300hp engines pretty much across the board, 250-260 rwhp from stock 6spd cars does not equal 275-285 crank hp... Weight is going to be the same or more on the new base, gearing is likely to less aggressive, overall suspension setup won't be as good, etc. I expect the new base to be nearly a half second slower through the 1/4 than a properly running and driven 6spd LT1 honestly...
But I think that will be pretty good, a mid 14 second base Camaro would be sweet. I hope it turns out the absolute base car is that good of a performer, because the 200ish hp level is just so tired now. If they make a 210ish base again like the current Mustang it will be disappointing, can't go anywhere these days without seeing a half dozen of the base poseur Mustangs all over the place. A 285ish hp base would be a good all around base Camaro that actually brings quite a bit of performance to the party for a change. Honestly though I'm expecting a 210-220hp true base model again, price will be the biggie IMO and I doubt a 285ish hp base will get it done, hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised. Blah
But I think that will be pretty good, a mid 14 second base Camaro would be sweet. I hope it turns out the absolute base car is that good of a performer, because the 200ish hp level is just so tired now. If they make a 210ish base again like the current Mustang it will be disappointing, can't go anywhere these days without seeing a half dozen of the base poseur Mustangs all over the place. A 285ish hp base would be a good all around base Camaro that actually brings quite a bit of performance to the party for a change. Honestly though I'm expecting a 210-220hp true base model again, price will be the biggie IMO and I doubt a 285ish hp base will get it done, hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised. Blah
Last edited by Ray86IROC; 09-20-2006 at 01:29 AM.
#42
Re: Will the BASE 5th gen outperform ALL previous STOCK Camaros?
Originally Posted by Ray86IROC
Honestly though I'm expecting a 210-220hp true base model again, price will be the biggie IMO and I doubt a 285ish hp base will get it done, hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised. Blah
Keep in mind, by then, grandma's Camry will probably have 260-280 hp.
#43
Re: Will the BASE 5th gen outperform ALL previous STOCK Camaros?
Originally Posted by Killaz
Why bother getting all worked up over the Base camaro. If you wanted a fast car get the up model. The v-6 as far as my thinking goes are for the women that want the look without the neck snaping speed.IMO
David
#44
Re: Will the BASE 5th gen outperform ALL previous STOCK Camaros?
Originally Posted by Killaz
well i must just not get it. Me all of my freinds, and everyone that i know with an F body, got the Z28, if we wanted a "fast" car. Does it really matter if the v-6 has 230hp-or 265 hp? I don't get why people are all worked up over the "base" camaro. Of corse its not going to beat an LT1 Car, hell i bet it "may" run with the 350TPI cars. Can anyone shed some light on what im missing?
#45
Re: Will the BASE 5th gen outperform ALL previous STOCK Camaros?
Originally Posted by Z284ever
Keep in mind, by then, grandma's Camry will probably have 260-280 hp.