I hope so. If I could run E85 all the time I would and with the new tech coming out we might see lower prices and more diverse locations.

http://domesticfuel.com/2008/01/29/f...in-production/

and I hear that GM is partnering up to do this very thing and to get E85 price closer to $1 gal.

http://www.dailytech.com/Cellulosic+...ticle10320.htm

Please please please

 

I'm sure it will be, at least in some of the engine options, GM is saying it will have 50% of it vehicles capable of using E85 by 2010 or 2012, or something like that. I can't see why they wouldn't put it in a new vehicle.

But I'm not to fond of that Ethanol from Wood idea..... Maybe it's nothing, but I always thought waste wood, like sawdust, and the shreds he's holding in that pic in the top article - was used for particle board, and bigger pieces for Plywood.

Paper, and cardboard I always assumed is generally be more and more recycled into new paper and cardboard........

I tend to like the things I mentioned better than fuel....b/c if it's all being turned into Ethanol, that means more chopping down of trees for new paper instead of "remaking" the paper and cardboard, and types of building materials (i.e. plywood).

however, if all I said above is taking place already, and the 'waste wood' is really, indeed 'waste' that ends up in a dump....then by all means! Go for it!!!

 

E85 would be cool on all engines. A top dog with E85 would make quite a splash and set a pretty high bar for the competition. It'd probably be a nice selling point, too.

 

I think I read somewhere that stainless steel lines/ tank are the only things needed for a car to be E85 compatible ( ethanol eats away at rubber tubing ). Can someone confirm this ??

 

It looks like China is planning on being a major exporter of ethanol. If china can do it surely the US can do it as well. And I would love to buy US made fuel instead of foriegn fuel.

If this waste to E85 works out the infastructure problem would be solved and there would be no need to rework the pipelines, because plants could be local.

This waste wood thing is just the start. They are working on using a lot more types of waste to produce ethanol. Anything that contains carbon can be converted.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/09/...ss/ethanol.php

BTW I have my fingers crossed for a FFV LS3.

 

It depends...is the vehicle E85 only? If it's a flex-fuel vehicle, a sensor has to be added to the tank to determine the constitution of the fuel. Then the computer needs to be able to adjust the tuning for E85, etc...Supposedly it's not very expensive to build a car to be compatible, but there's more to it than just fuel lines and tank.......

 

Thanks for the info !

Not expensive.... Well this is good to know.... Camaro Team, please make it happen.

The Montreal area has 4 confirmed stations that sell E85. Having a performance car that's " environment friendly" is cool !!

 

I am planning on converting my 98 Camaro that I bracket race next year. So far what I have gathered that I need is: stainless fuel lines, compatible tank, larger injectors, external fuel pump?(I think, because ethanol can conduct electricity, not sure how the OEM does it though)(also if you haven't already upgraded your pump you will need a higher flowing pump), and a tune.

 

Yep, having 400hp+ and use less barrels of oil than a Camry hybrid would rock

 

The new proccesses are truely utilizing waste. they are saying ANYTHING organic and used examples like sewage and grass.... Even the cardboard and paper products arent all recycled. there is still TONS of it ending up in landfills. This option is by far the best and most feasable option out there.

I was originally 100% against E85 since it used corn crops to produce the ethonal. but with this technology I have spun 180 degrees and will be converting my camaro over to it as soon as there is a station within 10 miles of my house.

 

My wife and I just got a used FF truck and I did some research. I would like to see less of a loss in the MPG using E85, somewhere around 15% now. I would also like to see a way the PCM could change the compression ratio depending on how much E85 was in the fuel mix. If not it can't really take advantage of the higher octane if the E85. Maybe that is where some of the fuel ecomomy is lost.

 

Currently FFV are claiming about a 15% loss in MPG and about 10% improvement in HP. If we had enough pumps to run E85 only all the time then you could have a car that is optimized for E85 and should improve millage. Its never going to get the same as gas, but it will be better than it is now.

If we can get E85 for ~$1 a gallon then it really wouldn't matter as much and that is what they are saying could be possible with this new technology.

Even if it costed the same or a little more, I still would rather spend my money on US products rather than sending it overseas. If they can get the price down like they are talking then its a win win.