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Old 04-18-2008 | 01:08 PM
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I'm starting to think my Z/28 w/ a base LS3 isn't such a bad idea . You can get it that way if you want a lighter more nimble (though not as fast) car, or get the OPTIONAL supercharged engine for max power, w/ a possible hit in handling.
You know, I've also been thinking that I would consider that approach, IF the Z/28 were offered in that way.

The supercharged version will definitely take a hit on weight and handling. And the several thousand dollars you'd save by not getting it, would sure buy a nice cam/header set-up.

We'll see....
Old 04-18-2008 | 03:24 PM
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You know, I've also been thinking that I would consider that approach, IF the Z/28 were offered in that way.

The supercharged version will definitely take a hit on weight and handling. And the several thousand dollars you'd save by not getting it, would sure buy a nice cam/header set-up.

We'll see....
Which is exactly what I was saying...
Old 04-18-2008 | 04:25 PM
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Gloria,
You play more to my point when you speak about being in tune with a pick-up truck < granted not the run of the mill hay hauler > by making your eloquent description on what resonates for you. You have me wanting to take a ride in that thing.

Gloria, a good fellow I have the pleasure to know was one of the better Yenko Stinger drivers there was. I mention this because I see the Yenko Stinger in your sig... Beyond that he was a very good road racing talent, and GM engineer with what I could only dream about when it comes to smallblock much less bigblock knowledge... I mean the guy built the preliminary design of the cross ram 302 TransAM intake. He had far more seat time in L88 'vettes than Zora could hope for.
I help privateer teams win races on road courses. I have had the good fortune to drive cars my wife would shoot me for buying. Driven other peoples race cars they would shoot me for crashing. Do I see myself as important? No. I'm just passionate and lucky.

A good balanced and communicative car is something I have experience with. At least I think I do... You need not preach to this particular choir. I do hope to meet you one day to swap stories. I bet yours are better than mine.

What I am not, however, is particularly concerned about the desirability of the new Camaro. I have high hopes for what will be offered. If it kicks a high dollar Mustang's *** at the strip and turns a nice number at the "Ring as well? I'll grin.
I figure that shipping a car from the US or OZ to Germany has little to do with pulling a good sixty footer Brembo isn't known for it's "drag pack". I have to hook a bit of faith to the evidence.

Mmmmm, you mention numbers...
Numbers are not an end all or be all for me. Neither do I rule them out merely because they are digits on a page. I do analyze them with a sharp eye. My tail in the seat is the final decider.

I do think this is all conjecture prior to actually driving the new Camaro. Final opinions and concerns are rather moot 'til then.
LOL, you are probably correct. I think I was more trying to explain it, for the benefit of others.............. I just put your name at the top, as the first sentence was to you.

Our Yenko is an interesting story. We are the 3rd owners, and have had the car since 1987 (when nobody knew, or cared what a Stinger was). The car was purchased as a race car, and we have every piece of paper from the day it was ordered. It still has the original body, and the original race engine (idles at 2000rpm), which is currently not in the car (only need gasket kit and a few other small things to get running). It even has 1 of 4 handbuilt Yenko close ratio gearboxes. There is next to no rust on the car, but when you are underneath it, you can see where it had been repaired from getting banged up on the hillclimbs. It raced at Bridgehampton, Mt Equinox, Mt Ascutney (spell??), Thompson, and alot of other big tracks. 1972 was the last year it raced, as 1973 was when they changed the class for the Stingers.......... and when alot of Stinger racers lost their original bodies (for wide bodies). It was a 1969 Tri-state champion.

I was posting on a Ferrari forum (yes, I like all cars) once, and a regular there asked me about my login, which was Yenkoys100. I told him about the car, and he informed me that he had raced against this car in the late sixties and early 70's in his Lola. It was fascinating, and shows how small the world really is.

It will be restored to its correct racing form. We have tons of pictures to go by. The sad thing is, the supercar community is so phony and corrupt........... and it is starting to affect the Stingers, as the prices are now going up on them (the last affordable Yenkos). You are starting to see alot of real shady stuff on them........... and cars that are being sold. Oh, the stories I could tell. LOL

Anyway, sorry to go off topic. The Stinger is something that we, as middle class folks, are real proud to own. That it is as good of a car, with as amazing of a history as it has........... including probably the most documentation of any Stinger (we even have the original title, showing that no plates were issued).......... is just a big bonus.

Thank you for the interest.

Your history seems fascinating, as well. There really isn't much here........... except a girl motorhead who loves all types of cars/trucks, and loves to wrench on stuff too. That said, our 6-year-old is quite the car buff already. LOL

I would love to meet most of the people that I talk to on the boards......... including the ones I argue with. Passion, instead of Apathy is so rare these days.
Old 04-18-2008 | 05:01 PM
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Gloria,
It's cool seeing anyone so passionate about thier car, but even more so for you considering most women don't even like pumping their own gas. Is this by chance your car? http://www.corvaircorsa.com/yenko05.html It says it has a CA owner, so wasn't sure.

O'well, back to the topic. That thread on svt is rather humorous. Methinks this gentleman doen't know as much as he may claim.
Old 04-18-2008 | 05:18 PM
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Yep, thats our car. Rick purchased the car in CA, from the second owner. He used to live in CA a long time ago. Lets just say that we have distanced ourselves from much of the Corvair community........... as we did not like the direction that some things were going (as in the phonying of cars, calling blatent rebodies original Stingers, and now the fraudulant documentation. Some self proclaimed experts have been hot to see our original documentation).

Oh, I know I'm not the typical female. Sad, really. I can't even stand shopping. LOL (well, unless it is for car/truck parts.......... or home improvement). I think I own 5 or 6 pairs of shoes. hehe Well, at least I can cook. LOL

They get a little carried away over there. That is just the style of that site. I actually don't visit over there very often anymore.

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Old 04-19-2008 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by IREngineer
Which is exactly what I was saying...
Do you say that because you feel the Z/28 won't appeal to me?
Old 04-19-2008 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
You know, I've also been thinking that I would consider that approach, IF the Z/28 were offered in that way.

The supercharged version will definitely take a hit on weight and handling. And the several thousand dollars you'd save by not getting it, would sure buy a nice cam/header set-up.

We'll see....
I'm imagining a Z06 w/ an LS3 instead of an LS7. A little bit quicker in the straight line compared to a coupe (lighter weight, more traction), but it would keep the beefy suspension, brakes, widebody, and fixed roof rigidity. I wonder how much you would knock off the Z06's price if you got it w/ an LS3 instead of an LS7? 5K...10k?

Man a Camaro w/ this setup might really be nice, though I think I would still have to go w/ the blower just because it was there.

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Old 04-20-2008 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by CLEAN
I'm imagining a Z06 w/ an LS3 instead of an LS7. A little bit quicker in the straight line compared to a coupe (lighter weight, more traction), but it would keep the beefy suspension, brakes, widebody, and fixed roof rigidity. I wonder how much you would knock off the Z06's price if you got it w/ an LS3 instead of an LS7? 5K...10k?

Man a Camaro w/ this setup might really be nice, though I think I would still have to go w/ the blower just because it was there.
You know, if it were up to me.....

I'd do without the blower on the Z/28, and develop an LS3 variant for it, based around GM Performance Parts LS HotCam http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/En...1224&engCat=ls. 480 hp.

Or better yet, a Gen V, GDI version, with Lord knows how much normally aspirated horsepower.

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Old 04-20-2008 | 02:18 AM
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Exactly. A SIDI Gen V 6.2 making 500hp, getting better gas milage then an LSA, better emissions, and with a LOT less weight.
Make a hand built one for the Z06, and a mass produced one for the Z28.
Old 04-20-2008 | 03:16 PM
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Exactly. A SIDI Gen V 6.2 making 500hp, getting better gas milage then an LSA, better emissions, and with a LOT less weight.

And *S_E_V_E_R_A_L* thousand dollars less.
Old 04-20-2008 | 07:58 PM
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Ahhhh man...GM really needs to do this. Screw power adders!! They are currently making near 500hp on an L92 with DI, thats still in prototype form!!! 2 years from now, they cant make an easy 500hp 6.2 V8 without a blower? COME ON GM!! DUIT!!
Old 04-20-2008 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Als Z
Ahhhh man...GM really needs to do this. Screw power adders!! They are currently making near 500hp on an L92 with DI, thats still in prototype form!!! 2 years from now, they cant make an easy 500hp 6.2 V8 without a blower? COME ON GM!! DUIT!!
Blower or no blower, who's gonna want a Gen IV smallblock in '11 when even uncle Ned's '11 Silverado, will have a GDI, VVT, Gen V smallblock. You know what I'm saying?
Old 04-21-2008 | 12:33 AM
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Do you say that because you feel the Z/28 won't appeal to me?
No I don't. See post #113.

I see you getting the N/A V8 and massaging.

I'm actually leaning towards getting the DI V6 and boosting it after a couple of years. Premium is $4 here and will no doubt be $4.50-5 by the time I would be purchasing. I am the reason GM is shooting for a great V6 Camaro.
Old 04-21-2008 | 08:53 AM
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Blower or no blower, who's gonna want a Gen IV smallblock in '11 when even uncle Ned's '11 Silverado, will have a GDI, VVT, Gen V smallblock. You know what I'm saying?
I dont have an uncle ned, but I got your point. And its so crystal clear that Z28 needs to have this technology in order to keep to its former image.
Old 04-21-2008 | 09:48 AM
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I would love to meet most of the people that I talk to on the boards......... including the ones I argue with. Passion, instead of Apathy is so rare these days.

The next time I talk to Jerry I'll ask if he has any interesting backstory about the Stingers and driving them.

I agree. Meeting th internet folks is something I particularly enjoy. Ditto on the "passion" comment.



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