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Old 10-22-2008 | 12:49 AM
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ZL-1 engine for camaro?

I saw on motor trend that the camaro might have the ZL-1 engine in it, the 376 cu pushing 505 hp @6300 rpm and 470 torque @4800 rpm, it also says its a 11.4 sec 1/4 mile @130.5 mph weighing in at 3600lbs. now idk if this is true can nebody help me out here. i mean this is a brand new camaro they should at least have to put an engine in here to take the shelby gt500.
Old 10-22-2008 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mike mlodecki
I saw on motor trend that the camaro might have the ZL-1 engine in it, the 376 cu pushing 505 hp @6300 rpm and 470 torque @4800 rpm, it also says its a 11.4 sec 1/4 mile @130.5 mph weighing in at 3600lbs. now idk if this is true can nebody help me out here. i mean this is a brand new camaro they should at least have to put an engine in here to take the shelby gt500.
I ain't a rocket scientist...but Id have to raise the ol' on that unless I saw it in writing.

..and we all know how many times things change from writing to production model.

Besides, those bafoons on Motor Trend are silly. Why would GM put a 7 year old motor in car like the Z?? Id much rather predict the LS7 or something new...I dunno

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Old 10-22-2008 | 03:36 AM
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can we keep all speculation to a specific forum please?
Old 10-22-2008 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mike mlodecki
I saw on motor trend that the camaro might have the ZL-1 engine in it, the 376 cu pushing 505 hp @6300 rpm and 470 torque @4800 rpm, it also says its a 11.4 sec 1/4 mile @130.5 mph weighing in at 3600lbs. now idk if this is true can nebody help me out here. i mean this is a brand new camaro they should at least have to put an engine in here to take the shelby gt500.
Do the initials "BS" mean anything to ya, Mike?
Old 10-22-2008 | 08:13 AM
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3600 pounds...

505 hp (at the crank)...

11.4 in the 1/4...

Obviously not with stock tires.

Even with stickies, co-efficient of drag and parasitic loss of IRS would not allow that to happen.
Old 10-22-2008 | 08:20 AM
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i know but its jus nice to maybe think it will happen even tho i also doubt it
Old 10-22-2008 | 08:43 AM
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Mike, did you mean ZR-1?
Old 10-22-2008 | 10:45 AM
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Mike, did you mean ZR-1?
That might make a little more sense.

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Old 10-22-2008 | 10:57 AM
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Mike, did you mean ZR-1?
Maybe he meant Z06...the hp/tq he posted are for the LS7, but the displacement is the same as the ZR-1?



On a side note, why is there such a huge drop off between the models? The ZR-1 with 638 hp and is the fastest Corvette, and then you have the ZR-2...which I guess is the fastest S-10?
Old 10-22-2008 | 11:03 AM
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no i actually saw on motor trend that they used the zl-1 idk im jus kinda bummed that this car isnt gonna get a lot fo power in it for a brand new sports car
Old 10-22-2008 | 11:10 AM
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3600 pounds? Not a chance......
Old 10-22-2008 | 11:53 AM
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GMPP did reintroduce the ZL-1 as a special edition crate motor a short time back (last couple years?) however that was an all-aluminum block big block at 454 cid.

So the ZL-1 in a Camaro? No way. I serious doubt GM would put the supercharged LS9 in the Camaro as well as there's no way they'd put their $116k super Corvette ZR-1 motor in anything but the ZR-1. The little sister LSA could be a possibility, but then we know that pushes 556 hp in the Caddy, but 505 hp could be a detuned number for Camaro. However, 505hp sounds like the LS7 in the Z06, but that's 505 hp with the dry sump set-up and rear mounted transmission. And 3600-lbs? As Charlie said, "not a chance."

Seriously though, why not simply use the hotcam version of the LS3 which GMPP already sells as a crate motor and which puts out 480 hp? I for one would be perfectly content with a Z/28 with just under 500 hp and some weight savings off the SS.
Old 10-22-2008 | 12:17 PM
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Wasn't the ZL-1 on the first gen cars a 427? Why the heck would they put a crate motor which is less advanced in a modern car?
Old 10-22-2008 | 12:21 PM
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Wasn't the ZL-1 on the first gen cars a 427?
Yes. 1969 only, and only 69 were built.
Old 10-22-2008 | 12:30 PM
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My dad just bought the "Anniversary 427 ZL-1" engine that they just came out with...it's supposed to be at the house on Friday or Monday...

oh yeah, only 427 of the anniversary ones are going to be built....



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