the 2011 gt weighs 40 pounds more than the 2010. it also has 390 lb-ft of torque. and true 2 cam vct.

GT = 412hp/3605 vs. SS = 426hp/3880
GT = 412hp/3605 vs. camaro 305hp/ ? weight

GT has 3.73 gearing factory option.

you underestimate what VCT will do for acceleration. ive watched 05+ dyno runs and the torque curve is DEAD flat to drop off. looks unlike any power curve i had ever seen. dont be suprised if a 2011's average torque is close to a 6.2 ls3. the ls3 has 420 lb-ft vs. 390 lb-ft.


there is lots of aftermarket support for 2011's to reduce weight.

 

btw HID DOES add weight. hid is a gas discharge system with a standy-by power supply and ballast. that transformer adds weight. on my 2011 GT it is beng deleted.

the 2011 GT will have spoiler delete, hid delete, striping delete. cloth 4 way seats. it will be plenty light. no nav system.all that stuff can be deleted for weight reduction. i can add the brembos but probably wont.

 

To put a few things into perspective:

2011 GT will be quicker than the SS Camaro stock. No one will debate this unless the true weight of the GT is not what is said.

The Camaro SS responds to bolt on mods very well. Pull up next to a Camaro SS with intake and/or headers and the 2011 GT will see tail lights.

Downfall of the 2011 GT will be aftermarket. It will take a full year to develop mods that will show any improvement and the cost will be more than the Camaro. It also will not be blower friendly due to the high compression.

My wife drives a 2010 Mustang GT and I am good with that buy because I know 540HP is easy with a blower and I don't have to tear into the motor to support it.

My 2010/2011 Camaro SS will share the same driveway/garage as her car.

Back to OT....

I think the weight diff between a 1ss and a 2ss would average out to around 100lbs.

 

Really, you wouldn't be surprised?

The Camaro's LS3 has a flat torque curve of its own and it makes quite a bit or torque across the rpm range. It's making close to what the GT will make for peak torque at 2,500rpm and more from 3,500rpm to 6,000rpm. The GT will do very well, but engine torque is not the reason. This is why Ford has very aggressive transmission gearing and optional 3.55 and 3.73 rear gears. To make up for the lack of torque compared to the competition. And it should make up for it nicely.

 

Using gearing to make up for lack of torque only works when speeds stay relatively low. Watch the LS3 run away from the GT after 100mph...

 

 

Can you give me the lotteries numbers please? I know your crystal ball should be good for it.

 

Really.....you are kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

How much do you think it will cost to do a cam upgrade on the 5.0?

I can tell you it will be 4x or more what it does for the LS3 or L99.

 

I am not saying it will be easy or a lot of people will be modding them.

I was just saying we have no idea how the car responds to what mods right now.

I do believe the SS with the LS3 will respond better to mods than the 5.0.

 

Oh please GuinonM. Stop defending GM for once. They used a heavy platform for cheaps sake. They probably nailed it in the "profit" dept. But the car is a PIG and it is HONESTLY worthless for the performance stand point and modding dept. There are NO camaros being modded around here... Absolutely NON.. They are all "show" cars. Why? Car is a freaking pig.

Corvettes... I get them DAILY with all kinds of attachments...

Car is a pig... And honestly.. as much as it HURTS me to say it... The Ford will pound the camaro to the ground in the every day racing dept. Car is so heavy that it's not that good at anything really. It may be faster on the 1/4 than a 4th gen, but lately I am seeing more 4th gens being restored and put to race from people that REALLY wanted a 5th gen.

I myself skipped it in for a used c5 z06. I was a dollar short for a used c6Z.

The 4th gen chassis has gone a long way and will not twist in half like you say. It's a very decent chassis.

 

Jason, SSBaby, et al.....after that post, though shalt not ever again hound me for harping on the weight of the Camaro.

Thank you.

 

First off my comment was regarding the aftermarket taking over a year to make any mods that will improve the GT.

And yes doing a cam swap will cost a good bit more on the 5.0 than on the LS3.

 

Lots of negative nancys in here

Sure its heavier, than a fourth gen or a mustang, no ones arguing that.
But it does look 100X better than the Mustang and 4th gens. I know that subjective, but thats the way I feel.
Also the LS3 has TONS of potential so making it faster wont be a problem I dont care what anybody says.
Im not worried about the 5.0, sorry.

 

In the end... the Camaro is only 250lbs heavier... I guess a few things could be done.

 

ive got to disagree with you on that comment.




all i need is ANY LS motor. ****, id be happy with a 6.0 truck block to build up and put in her.

i think its funny as hell how some guys think that one LS is WAY better than another. There was one jack *** in the cts-v forum who used to always talk crap to those of us who had 2005 and older Vs because he thought his LS2 was just freakin light years more superior than the LS6. the right mods to an LS1 and your pumping out some serious ponies. even without FI....

AND they are pretty easy to work on. a cam swap is gravy....