That's exactly what he's trying to say with the original post though. The V6 Camaro isn't going to be a letdown bare bones model like the v6 mustang is. It is going to be a good performing car that will have plenty of luxury features. From what the "disciples" have said comparing it to the v6 mustang is a put down. I'm just saying if the V6 does everything that well imagine what the V8 will do. That is why I will opt for the V8!

 

GM as been sending signals for a long time that the line between the V6 and te SS are going to be close than the 4th Gen.

ALso it was made clear in a few statments that this car was going to be a step above the Mustang. To quote Lutz the Camaro would be a preimum car. He was just telling us we will be goetting a car a step above the rest out there.

The V6 was going to be the volume car all along and now that the price of oil is up an not looking to come down it is looking like a wise move.

No, not all are going to buy a V6 or they would not be selling the V8 but the V6 is what is going to keep volume up and the price dow while still giving great performance to the majority. Not everyone wants 400 HP for everyday driving contrary to popular thinking. Sometimes you have to not think as a enthusiast.

Just think of this as a Buick GN with more power. Also if tuned right a V6 can have a great sound. THink back to a V6 Fiero. They has a very agressive sound like a Ferrari 308 out of the domestic 2.8 V6.

 

You forgot to mention it'll probably be the best handling of the group. 50/50 weight dist. AND you took the mileage numbers out of the CTS, but didn't account for that missing 300lbs. Should it be a tad higher, then, like: 18/27?

I'm confused, though - I thought they decided to scrap the 'base' V6, and just go ahead and do the DI version as the V6 model.

That being said - I'm probably going to be getting the V6. The great part about that thought, is that it's not like I'm 'settling' for anything. It's bound to be a magnificent handler, with more than respectable power and full of great goodies. But, regardless - If I can get my hands on a 400hp V8, well hell - I'm doin' it!!

 

Seems like a very thirsty and heavy car for a V6 powered car to me. I'd expect to see under 3500 lbs and over 30 mpg, and not a big variation for the V8 cars too. Sure going to be interesting to see how the car is received by the potential customers when it finally gets here.

 

Don't forget that there's a gigantic difference in refinement between the Mustang's current SOHC 4.0 V6 and the 3.6 liter HF. They aren't even in the same ballpark. Mustang is getting a better 6, too, but I wouldn't base any thoughts on the Camaro V6 on the current Mustang V6 driving experience.

 

If it's around 3500, it will be about the same weight as an Accord Coupe or an Eclipse. If it gets 17/26, it will get better mileage.

I'd love to see 30 mpg numbers, but if it ends up as the above, it's certainly class competitive.

What in this approximate class currently gets 30 hwy?

 

Indeed, Ford's mission with the V6 Mustang was to get it out there as affor... err cheaply as possible... ergo the ancient 4.0 V6 and ghastly base interior.

Lol, gotta give the F5 credit for being a game changer though, Mustang is supposed to be coming with a better interior and hopefully a 400hp V8 with M6 trans and then we will see with the GRWD Mustang how things really shake out.

 

I kind of thought that at first, but then I really looked at cars in the same "class" for fuel mileage numbers. I don't think it is out of line at all compaired to what is out there right now. I don't think there is a midsized V6 powered car getting over 30mpg. (If my numbers are incorrect please say so, all taken from KBB.com)

All '08 models….
Cadillac CTS 17/26mpg with 304hp V6
BMW 525xi 19/27 with 230hp V6
Subaru Impresa WRX 19/25 230hp. Plain Subaru Impresa 20/27 170hp.
Subaru Legacy 20/27 175hp, unless you get the V6 19/26 245hp.
The Volkswagon Passat V6 gets 17/26 280hp
Mercedes Benz C class V6 gets 18/25 228hp
Dodge Avenger V6 15/24 235hp
Ford Taurus V6 FWD 18/28 263hp (AWD 17/24)
Ford Fusion V6 18/26 221hp
09 Toyota Camry V6 19/28 268hp
Nissan Maxima V6 19/25 255hp
Pontiac G8 V8 15/24 361hp
Pontiac Grand Prix V6 18/28 200hp

2002 Camaro Z28 automatic….. 18/25 305hp (numbers were before revised EPA ratings)

 

Thanks for clearing that up! That definitely puts it on par or better than its competitors.

 

That would probably push me over the edge. Well maybe...

 

What would be the Model name for the V6? RS??

 

The V6 Camaro needs to be the home run car. Not just for sales but to help GM in it's CAFE crunch. It's always been said that a better base model will make a better premium model. I'm glad GM has realized this as it's been a lost art in almost all of the previous pony cars then say the first gen Mustang.

What we don't know about the V6 is the curb weight and gearing and that will have a huge effect on performance and fuel economy. If the weight can be kept down and the DI 3.6L makes all the poines promised a 6-speed geared right would make the car fly and past the gas pump too.

 

I think now is a good time for us to demand for the 7-speed manual...

 

Yeah... but it sure is a great feeling, after having driven the car, that what you're saying is finally confirmed!

Best regardSS,

Elie

 

6spd manual & a 6spd auto?

It seems logical after all that economy of scale can be better used if you can get the same transmission no matter the engine.