427cid 3rd gens?
#3
Re: 427cid 3rd gens?
there are several guys around here running 454s and 455 in camaros and firebirds...
install is fairly straight forward...do a search
although i always wanted to put a 427" small block into an iroc...with full road race suspension and a 6spd transmission
install is fairly straight forward...do a search
although i always wanted to put a 427" small block into an iroc...with full road race suspension and a 6spd transmission
#6
Re: 427cid 3rd gens?
I have a 427 SBC, Well it's close.. anyway.. If you wanted a 427BBC you will need a new K member someone was selling Kmembers that the motor mounts were lower so the bbc would fit under a stock hood...I will try and find it..
#7
Re: 427cid 3rd gens?
Ive Got A 472 In My Car Wich Is A Stroked 427. It Is Awsome Car To Drive. Did Not Have To Buy A K Member.although It Is In The Plans.headers Are The Only Prob. However There Are A Few Options Out There.
#8
Re: 427cid 3rd gens?
396 - 540 BBC engines are all the same externally. The only difference is if you have a BBC truck block. That's the 366T and 427T (6L and 7L) blocks used in medium and heavy duty trucks (not pickups). Those decks are 0.400" taller because the pistons have an extra compression ring. Anywhere a 396 will fit, you can also stuff a 540.
The engine mounts on a BBC are in the same location as a SBC. The difference is that the bore spacing is farther apart so the block is going to be slightly longer. Since the engine mounts and tranny position are in the same spot, the extra length goes forward towards the rad.
A special crossmember is not needed. I use a 7 qt deep pan and Hooker Supercomp headers with mine.
Since the original poster hasn't specified if the 427 is a BBC or one of the highly modified SBC versions, we'll have to assume it's a BBC.
The engine mounts on a BBC are in the same location as a SBC. The difference is that the bore spacing is farther apart so the block is going to be slightly longer. Since the engine mounts and tranny position are in the same spot, the extra length goes forward towards the rad.
A special crossmember is not needed. I use a 7 qt deep pan and Hooker Supercomp headers with mine.
Since the original poster hasn't specified if the 427 is a BBC or one of the highly modified SBC versions, we'll have to assume it's a BBC.
#9
Re: 427cid 3rd gens?
Originally Posted by Stephen 87 IROC
396 - 540 BBC engines are all the same externally. The only difference is if you have a BBC truck block. That's the 366T and 427T
#11
Re: 427cid 3rd gens?
The taller deck height does cause problems. If you're willing to do fabrication work, anything will fit. typically everyone uses the Hooker Supercomp headers for the BBC swap. They're not the best fitting even with a short deck block but they're the cheapest to buy. If you used them, they would sit higher and mine already sit up against the bottom of the floor and front subframe.
The taller deck also means heads and valve covers sit higher. In a street car with a wiper motor and heater/AC system, this can cause more clearance issues. 0.400" doesn't sound like much but it can add up in tight areas.
Tall deck intake manifolds are available for just about every application but a regular intake manifold can be used with special spacers.
427T blocks have lots of potential. The 366T blocks are boat anchors. Most of them can be safely bored out 0.125" over. That's only a 4.375" bore. You can simply buy an aftermarket 4.5" bore block and build a 502 or stroke the 502 and make a 540. The nice thing about the truck blocks is that it gives you a better rod length/stroke ratio. A special order crank can be used in any block but common stroke lengths for BBC is 4.0", 4.25" and 4.5". An exotic crank is 5.0" stroke but it will only fit in high end aftermarket blocks. That's for building things like 632 engines.
The taller deck also means heads and valve covers sit higher. In a street car with a wiper motor and heater/AC system, this can cause more clearance issues. 0.400" doesn't sound like much but it can add up in tight areas.
Tall deck intake manifolds are available for just about every application but a regular intake manifold can be used with special spacers.
427T blocks have lots of potential. The 366T blocks are boat anchors. Most of them can be safely bored out 0.125" over. That's only a 4.375" bore. You can simply buy an aftermarket 4.5" bore block and build a 502 or stroke the 502 and make a 540. The nice thing about the truck blocks is that it gives you a better rod length/stroke ratio. A special order crank can be used in any block but common stroke lengths for BBC is 4.0", 4.25" and 4.5". An exotic crank is 5.0" stroke but it will only fit in high end aftermarket blocks. That's for building things like 632 engines.
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Re: 427cid 3rd gens?
Originally Posted by Stephen 87 IROC
The 366T is a boat anchor. It has no performance potential. Sort of the 305 version of the BBC.
#15
Re: 427cid 3rd gens?
An old one is nice but a GenV is better. The genV block doesn't have a fuel pump boss for a mechanicla pump. It uses a steel crank and 4 bolt mains. It has a one piece rear main seal. They have oil cooler ports near the filter base. The GenV blocks have 6.0L cast in the side of the block for the 366 and 7.0L for the 427. the stock intake manifolds have 2 thermostats.
The 427 is the same bore of 4.250" as the 454 but a shorter stroke. The 366T only has a bore of 3.935 but can also be bored out 0.125".
The truck blocks have thicker cylinder walls than the car blocks because they work harder and need to disipate heat without having cylinder wall deflection. This is why they can be bored out so much. All the truck (tall deck) blocks are 4 bolt mains.
You can take a 427T block and put a 4" stroke crank into it to make a 454. All the taller deck does is improve the rod/stroke ratio. No extra CID is gained from the taller deck. I improved my ratio by using a 0.250" longer con rod in my 454 with special pistons designed for the longer rod.
Con rods and pushrods need to be 0.400" longer in a tall deck block (stock parts not recommended for performance use). As mentioned above either a special tall deck intake manifold is needed or special spacers to allow a car intake to be used. Spacers are commonly available.
The 427 is the same bore of 4.250" as the 454 but a shorter stroke. The 366T only has a bore of 3.935 but can also be bored out 0.125".
The truck blocks have thicker cylinder walls than the car blocks because they work harder and need to disipate heat without having cylinder wall deflection. This is why they can be bored out so much. All the truck (tall deck) blocks are 4 bolt mains.
You can take a 427T block and put a 4" stroke crank into it to make a 454. All the taller deck does is improve the rod/stroke ratio. No extra CID is gained from the taller deck. I improved my ratio by using a 0.250" longer con rod in my 454 with special pistons designed for the longer rod.
Con rods and pushrods need to be 0.400" longer in a tall deck block (stock parts not recommended for performance use). As mentioned above either a special tall deck intake manifold is needed or special spacers to allow a car intake to be used. Spacers are commonly available.
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