LesPaulGoth

Hey guys, soon to be Iroc owner here with a question. I spent some time searching, but came up short to what I had to ask.

Ok I worked out a deal with this guy with a sweet 1990 Iroc 305 and I'll be getting it in roughly 2 weeks. Thing is, its got a crack in the Y-pipe right where it angles to go back to the cat. Now, I told him to not fix anything because I was planning on working on the exhaust myself as a first priority. This would keep the cost down for me anyhow

Now I figure, since I'm going to replace the Y, I might as well get the headers too all in one shot. I'm on a tight budget, but I was thinking of getting the Edelbrock Tubular Exhaust kit which includes the Ypipe. Now the thing is
I can get black painted tubes for 330$, or pay 360$ and get a Nickel Chrome finish. Now my question to you is, will the Nickel tubes rust over just like the black painted ones, or would it be worth the 30 extra dollars to get the nickel over the black? I mean if they are both going to rust anyhow, I might as well get the cheaper ones.

If anyone has any other suggestions as far as a different brand of tubes or anything, that would also be appreciated.

Thanks, _Clark_

Nitro

well they both might rust if you really think about were talking about exhaust it get's really hot and then water gets on them when there bright red then they start to rust but then again I could be wrong because you said it has nickel in them so there's a chance they won't rust at all just make sure you get the long neck one's they produce more power than shorty headers.

raul.garcia

The rust starts on the inside of pipe from condensation, outside it's usaully dings, scratches, and places where the plating separates from heat expansion, and sudden contraction from water splashing on them.

Rice Killer87

screw those Edelbrock headers,go with Heddman's I love mine and they fit great.

heres a link:

http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...=egnsearch.asp

y-pipe-

http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...=egnsearch.asp

with the money you save using these headers,you could get them coated and STILL have money left over.

hope that helps

LesPaulGoth

Summit is really weird with thier linking system...that just brings me to the Hedman Brand Category...but are these the ones you are referring to?
http://static.summitracing.com/globa...ed-68604-1.jpg

And as for the Y Pipe...well Hedman only makes one (on summit anyhow) so I know what your talking about there...but you say I would have $$ left over...Those Headers alone are 325$ and the Y-pipe is 98$. That puts me past the price of the Edelbrocks...please specify if there are different headers you are talking about that I am missing.

I also stumbled along a pair from Flowtech that are ceramic coated for 219$.
http://static.summitracing.com/globa...31116flt_w.jpg

Header Material: Steel
Header Finish: Ceramic coated
Header Style: Shorty
Primary Tube Diameter (in): 1 5/8
Collector Diameter (in): 3
Equal Length: No
Primary Tube Gauge: 18-gauge
Collector Attachment: 3-bolt flange
Flange Style: Standard
Flange Thickness (in): 5/16
Bolts/Studs Included: Yes
Gaskets Included: Yes
Reducers Included: Yes
Y-pipe Included: No
Quantity: Sold as a pair.



And the Matching Y-Pipe for 96$:
http://static.summitracing.com/globa...g-11102y_w.jpg

-pipe Inlet Attachment: 3-bolt flange
Inlet Diameter (in): 2.50
Y-pipe Outlet Attachment: Slip-fit
Outlet Diameter (in): 3.00
Y-pipe Material: Steel
Y-pipe Finish: Black painted
Oxygen Sensor Bung Included: No
Catalytic Converter Included: No
Gaskets Included: No
Hardware Included: No
Quantity: Sold individually.
Notes: Designed to fit FlowTech short-style headers. May require modification to connect to original exhaust.



Like I said, Summit is stupid, but those are the specs for those two. I may consider those, so tell me what you think about those too, if anyone has any experience with them.

Also, the question of the Nickel/Chromium headers rusting like the painted ones still exists if anyone else has input on that.

Thanks!

Rice Killer87

yea,summit is gay with the links.

heres a link to the Jegs site w/ the headers on there.

http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...59&prmenbr=361

the bottom of the 3 listed there are the shorties w/ the y-pipe included for $335.99.

I thought they were cheaper than that,maybe the summit site price was wrong.

Not sure about the Flowtechs,I dont have any experience w/ them and havent heard about them for 3rd gens.

LesPaulGoth

Are those ones ceramic coated? The picture looks like it could be, but it doesnt specify, and those could be nickel plated.

Irocvette355

That flowtech y-pipe doesnt look like it flows very well...the slp, edelbrock, and heddman y- pipes merge togther, rather than having 90 degree angle staight into the exhaust flow.

85_305

Or you could buy the Hedman Shorties and the matching Y-pipe off of Jegs for about $240

Rice Killer87

I was trying to show those,but my links keep gettin screwed. I knew there was no way they were more than $300 for black painted shorties and the $100 y-pipe.

85_305

^LOL.. my thoughts EXACTLY! That is why I looked into it more

Waaait.. you *do* know I mean the seperate items right? Like.. buy the shorties (whihc ever p/n they are..) and then buy the y-pipe (which ever p/n it is).. *then* the total is arond 240 or so.
BTW.. if you need help w/ jegs p/n's for those items, I could get them for you

LesPaulGoth

Yeah I figured that much. Lol Summit is making this really hard with their linking system. I knew what you meant though. Im still weighing my options.

85_305

^Oh, ok

transambill

The Edelbrocks are junk.
Depending on what your gonna do with the car and will it have something bigger than the 305 in it in the future.
Flowtec's are cheep trash.
Depending on what you wanna spend,
Hooker Super Comp shortys ceramic coated and SLP's are the best shortys if you can afford them.
Hooker Comps-2460's are a well made,non expensive shorty that are even better coated but you have to have your own Y pipe made.
If a 383 is in your future the Hooker Super Comp long tube are a good choice but overkill for a 305. There the best flowing header for a third gen but require an expensive Y-Pipe or duals and ground clearence can be an issue for loward cars.
Headman makes a Longtube set that fit closer to the floor than the Hookers. Well built and cheeper than the Hookers but smaller 1 5/8 primaries compared to Hooker's 1 3/4.

What ever you decide on ,get coated. No one wants a bunch of rusted pipe in there engine compartment and you don't wanna be replaceing them in a few years.
Stainless is nice to but they don't hold heat in like ceramic coated.

85_305

Edelbrocks are deffinently NOT junk (lol). But I agree; you really *dont* need anything longer than shorties/mid-tube headers for a 305.
But what if you were to use 1200* paint on the headers? Will that stop the rusting?