shwine617

hows this sound...
I want to build a new top end over the winter.
i want to get this:
Holley Stealth Ram
cast iron dart heads 64cc chambers/215cc runners
58 mm throttle body
30 lb injectors
a bigger cam( don't know what)
roller rockers /1.6 pushrods
i want to make my motor have high horsepower N/A
I am planning to hit 12's on street tires when spring comes around.
thanks for the help, highly appreciated!!

aklim

Why? What is wrong with 24 or 26 pph injectors? 30 is a little large for that.

Bigger cam. How about calling these people and see about a camshaft.

Roller Rockers. I'd go with Crane Gold which have narrow body ones that fit on centerbolt valve covers. You might have to get some 1.6 and some 1.5 depending on the camshaft.

Also go to www.fasterproms.com and they will custom you a chip

formularpm

215cc heads arent a good idea on a stock bottom end, with heads that big (and the cam to match them) youre going to have to rev the engine pretty high to make peak power. As for rockers, Id get Comp ProMagnums, theyre steel and are much more durable than aluminum rockers.

aklim

Yes but will the CC ones fit the centerbolt valve cover or what style are the heads?

shwine617

Holley says the 30 lb injectors are for 380-480hp, and thats where i wanna be. I am not sure what type of heads i need. can you use none centerbolt heads with the stealth ram? I was looking are Dart Iron Eagles. maybe i should get 200cc then?
can i have outter bolt valve covers with the HSR? the block i have is a 350 from a 77 vette and has a 1990 305 tpi system on it.

aklim

Here is a page that will tell you what you need. I use a duty cycle of 0.9

90rocz

aklim, what's the average price of their custom proms??

aklim

www.fasterproms.com will charge you $350 for the first burn and later, if you want to do mods which require a reburn (heads, cam, injector size, intakes) they will charge you $150. First burn means they burn it till it is nuts on. It took 3 tries to get it on target for me. They send you a prom based on your specs and when you send them readings, they send you another chip and so on till it is on. Once it is right, you send them the money.

formularpm

You probably dont need injectors that big, 24s would probably be sufficient for your goal. 'Centerbolt' is a term used to describe how the valve covers are held on, it doesnt have anything to do with the intake manifold. I think the Iron Eagles are compatible with both centerbolt and perimeter covers, the centerbolts seem to seal better, but the perimeter-style offer more valvetrain clearance.

aklim

Yes and no. Centerbolt valve covers are 87 and up heads. On those heads, the intake manifold has different bolt holes in the center of the manifold as opposed to the earlier style. Accel manifolds are slotted so they fit either set but some are not and have to be slutted.

formularpm

I realize this. As you probably know, centerbolt covers are also available on many aftermarket heads, and since he was interested in Darts, thats what I was refering to. The newer-casting StealthRam is also compatible with both styles of heads, so the valve cover-vs-intake situation is not an issue.

shwine617

great, now that i know it will fit i'm not worried anymore and i am about to buy the stuff for the winter project.
how's this...
dart iron eagle heads 200cc/64cc
24lb injectors
holley stealth ram
58mm TB
a cam and torque converter to match
and a burned chip
thanks!

aklim

Sounds good here

shwine617

now all i need is the rest of the money
oh yea, i forgot i definetly need some subframe connectors, any place with good prices with bolt on ones? I am gonna bolt them on and then weld them.

aklim

www.alstonracing.com has some that are bolt on and then you can weld them on or just plain weld them on first time.