Rage

I've been keeping up with the Stealth Ram TPI in GMHTP, and it's turnin some very impressive numbers in my opinion. I was looking at either doing the Vortech TPI or the Stealth Ram with some AFR heads. Yes, the Stealth Ram will cost more, but I think I'll be better off with it.

I was not at all impressed Magnum TPI they had in there, they spent a crap load of money and were just barely 11's. Yeah it's fast, but there has to be an easier way to do it. Now, do you think the Stealth Ram 396 would be better than the 355 Stealth Ram they have? Im just curious. I can build my motor any way I want, so Im just having trouble deciding on which route to take. Help me out.

Anybody have an impressive 3rd gen? Tell me about it. I want to know how your doin it.

94z'sson

well mine isnt fast yet but i do have a LT1/ T56 conversion and i am currently building a 383 to go in

i have only had my LT1 for a little while and it isnt stock(LT4 hotcam) but i dont want to run on the 10 bolt right now cuz i am so close to having the 383 done and i am getting a 9 inch so i will let you know

mastrdrver

The Stealth Ram cost more then a TPI setup? When? The Stealth Ram cost under $500 for everthing you need, depending on the year. Compare that to a complete TPI intake will cost $600+ and you wont even come close to the performance of the Stealth Ram.

kandied91z

i think it depends on your application. i chose the miniram myself out of everything out there. had i been on a tighter budget i would have went with the SR.

cubic inch won't mean much either if you don't set it up right......

irocz8957

you dont think that 11 second quater miles are impressive thats pretty damn good!

Rage

I think 11's are very impressive. But they spent alot of money to get there. And, they have put a CRAP load of money into it.

The SR project hit 12.3 and they havent spent near as much money.

Mastdrive:
The SR is expensive, I already have the TPI setup.

kandied91z

if the SR is expensive don't go anywhere near the MR........

mastrdrver

$450 is expensive? Have you even looked at how much it will be to mod the TPI setup? Unless you have emissions, I would only consider the HSR for a intake mod.

RedIrocZ-28

Holley Stealth Ram = $507 delivered from Summit
(Comes with all fuel rails and fittings for the fuel rails)

New Water Neck = $8

New Upper radiator hose = $15

New fuel line to Fuel rail connection setup = ??? (haven't bought it yet but it looks to be about $50)

Thats not too bad especially when you gain 62 peak hp and an average of 25 hp across the board on a stock car.


By the way, no TPI will ever do justice to a 396. The TPI parts you have will ALL have to be scrapped in place of new ones. New runners, base, and well maybe you can keep the plenum.

StealthElephant

507$ from summit? i can't find just the baseplate/plenum only complete units, part number?

im building a 350 to replace my 305 TPI and half of me says that i want no BS of extra wires etc, just a carb and air cleaner for a clean and neat engine bay, the other half wants to reuse the TPI and keep the advantages of EFI...but i don't want the TPI to suck power out

so for like 600$ i could take my stock TPI and use the stealth ram to build a better top end? i have a MAF setup....so i wouldn't have to mess with programming or anything, as long as i stay away from a vacuum robbing cam should the stock MAF TPI adjust correctly if mounted on a 350 with the holley ?

Rage

No, No, No. I was saying a Stealth Ram 396 + exactly everything they did the the SR IROC in GMHTP. I was just wondering how that would work out. Not TPI.

See, I know you can get the SR for $500 or so, but every time I look for it, it's around $2200. That's what it's listed for in Jegs. I dont even see it in summit.

StealthElephant

www.thirdgenresource.com sells just the baseplate and intake for like 299$ plus an additional 250$ for fuel rails and adjustable reg. so like 600$ for that. Is this feasible?

I pull out the 305 TPI leaving all components I would need in. I would drop the 350 in, take the TPI off my 305 and use the parts to complete the Stealthram Intake/baseplate. How hard is it to take a TPI and convert it to work on the stealthram intake/baseplate? I have a MAF system, so if I were to do this I would want to be able to do this over a 3 day period. I need my car, it can't be down for 2 weeks trying to get the SR to work with my TPI parts. Since I'd be putting the TPI parts into the SR and using it on the same car, hopefully I wouldn't have to move any sensors or such except those that are directly on the intake. Just swap the 305 for the 350, rebuild the TPI with the SR parts, bolt on the intake and reconnect the wires and the MAF would automatically compensate itself with no need to tinker with anything computer related?

One problem is that I have protopline vortec heads....is there no way to use those heads with the SR setup? If that's the case then this isn't going to work out for me.

mastrdrver

The HSR list in Summit and Jegs for over 2k, but that includes all the sensors and ECU, which you dont need. No the HSR wont work with the vortecs. The HSR should be a direct swap for the TPI intake, no extra stuff is really involved. You do have to swap to the small cap HEI and use the fuel rails from Holley, but the rest of the TPI stuff should swap in. Talk to some of the guys over at thirdgen.org as some of them have done it and can help you out.

kandied91z

$2200...........

i'd go miniram without a doubt in that case.