Shane87Irocz

i am debating on getting the HSR or the mini ram. i was wondering if the mini ram is still a good option with the price difference. i am looking for huge power gains, great quality, ease of installation, etc. by the way, i am running a 350 tpi and the LT4 hotcam kit will be going in. i am unsure on what head work will be done at this time.


if you have any suggestions about what heads or a different cam or any other suggestions. i am wanting this car to run mid 12's. slicks will be used. how much cash does it usually take to get there by going this route? any suggestions would be great.

dj haf

i'd go MR... might cost more than the HSR, but it'll pull just a little bit more power up on top... that and it looks nicer than the HSR

95redvert

Go with the Miniram, I did! I have the Miniram, LT4 Hotcam kit, WP heads, etc.. I am hoping for 12's on sticky tires as well. Hoping for 11's with my nitrous kit. The installation of the Miniram was easy, it looks better than the Holley, and it gives more power up top. Go for the Miniram.

formularpm

It all depends on the combonation. Decide what heads you want and where you want the power to peak first. Also, looks are subjective, I wouldnt choose an intake based on how people think it looks.

Black6SpdTA

Between your two--Stealth Ram.

The MiniRam is way overpriced to start. And if I'm not mistaken, an LT1 Intake performs almost identically, but can be had for $400 painted/prepped from John at www.lt1intake.com I'd seriously look into that. Good luck though either way you'll have a blast!

-Corey

doug791

someone mentioned it earlier its all about where you want your power band to be. If this is going to be a relative daily driver or weekend warrior id go with the stealth ram because its going to result in a more torquey intake. If all you want is sheer performance regardless of where it is in the power band go with the mini-ram youre not going to make more power any other way.

cals400ex

hey shane, you could just buy an LS1 and not worry about it.

or you could buy my LT1 and once again not have to worry about it. considering we both know how my LT1 runs.

dj haf

MR pulls more RPMS than the LT1 intake, and pulls a little more power top end than the LT1 if im not mistaken

I emailed some dude asking him if he had anything that would help me pick between the HSR and the MR... and here's why i picked the MR.

www.djhaf.com/dyno.jpg

this is all from a computer dyno program... in the pic, if im not mistaken, current = ported tpi base and runners

I still say go with the MR

Black6SpdTA

Even when ported?

Don't get me wrong, the Miniram is sweet but if it's only a couple RPM or HP, I don't think it's worth the extra $800.

-Corey

95redvert

I think dj's dyno graph proves my point...go with the Miniram. And no, a LT1 intake does not perform the same as the Miniram. The Miniram gives more power up top, and torque down below. Go with the Miniram.

90rocz

I wonder how they would plug in parameters for the intakes for the Analyzer Programs? runner length, width, cfm's???
Was that making near 500HP!? That's very interesting...

dj haf

in order to feel the full effects of either intake, you need to know that your stock heads aren't sufficient enough. get yourself a set of AFR 195 heads, a cam that pulls power up to 6500 rpms, and a MR, and no one will be able to touch you im waiting till i have enough flow for all 3 of them, and a little extra money just incase there's something else i need to get that i didn't put in the picture.

cals400ex

that sounds good, but my friend is on a budget. we want a cam that you can hear, but not extremely aggressive. the hotcam kit seemed good since it came with what we were looking for. we just don't want it to be extremely choppy. this car won't be drove every day and it won't be strictly a race car. we are trying to make it still be streetable but quick enough to have fun at the track. also, we both know the afr's are going to cost. we were thinking about just getting his near fully ported, but that was just an option. we will still consider your suggestion, but we are still in school and money doesn't grow on trees.

doug791

that dyno graph says it all. Notice how the mini-ram only makes more power from 4500-7000 rpms. How high do you plan on reving the engine? Because if youre keeping it around 5000-5500 rpms the mini-ram is probably a waste of money because the stealth ram makes more power through the mid range.

I would take it with a grain of salt though i would have expected the mini-ram to have a larger amount of gain over the stealth ram then what is showed there and that is just a computer generation. I would expect larger gains then what is shown, so who the hell knows really.

mrr23

here's some actual dyno off mike davis' car between the MR and HSR with the LT4 hotcam. the only difference is the MR had ZZ4 heads and the HSR has the AFR 190:

http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~davis/z28/winter01/dyno/

and here's where a guy swapped from the superram to the lt1 intake.

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/tech/0803phr_beast/

and graph here. http://www.popularhotrodding.com/tec..._beast17_z.jpg

the lt1 lost bunches below 5000 rpm where it finally starts outpulling the supperam.