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How do I beat a 94-98 Mustang GT in my TBI?

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Old 05-30-2003, 12:03 PM
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I have to raise the flag here buddy.

At best 15 second car? Man that is funny. Go talk to willie over at thirdgen.org and ask him about his 15 second car, or talk to njspeeder about the TBI.

Might also want to ask the l98 guys why those extra 45 cubes, better cam, and heads only made what 15more hp than the lb9 and only 35ft lbs of torque?

Like I said before 1:1 ratio on a 305 isnt that bad. Go much past that and I would start thinking 350, but only at that point.

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Originally posted by Beast5spdGTA
Dyno graphs

Mods vs. 1/4 timeslips and price break down
How did you adjust the timing to 7*?
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How did you adjust the timing to 7*?
Remove the brown/tan wire (single wire connection by the heater box) while the engine is running, so there is no spark advance. Then just use a timing light and turn the distributor.

Now I just add the timing in the computer chip, if you put a cam in, you will need custom chip tuning to get it to run well. All the stuff to burn chips for these cars cost ~ $215 or less.
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There is alot of people repling to this topic that really need some help.

The TBI system isn't the resriction on a LO3 car, it's the cam and heads. TBI spacers and pod risers are wastes of money.

The thirdgen board has alot of TBI info but, due to the large number of " BS " members alot of good things for the TBI cars get shot down.
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First off if that is aimed at me, read my post again and you will see that I mentioned the pod raiser along with a mixture of other parts. One of those being heads. If the spacers didnt help you would see guys putting a 2" raiser underneath their carbs. However, underneath a stock hood the best your going to get is 1/4" to 1/2" pod raiser in there. Anything more and your through the hood.
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Nope not aimed at you. Just wanted to make it clear that it is a waste of time to say your TBI is fast on thirdgen.org.
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Old 05-31-2003, 03:58 PM
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Exhaust, cam, and gears. You already have the cam... Seeing you've got the HotCam in your LT1, you can take the stock LT1 cam and put it in the 305. You've got the experience.

Headers, a high flow or no cat, and a 3" exhaust with 3.42 gears would give you enough to take out pretty much any stock 94-98, and probably some of the mildly modded ones too.
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Ok first of all, the 305 isnt his major problem. The problem is in the TBI. My 305 TPI has beat numerous 5.0's, EVERY 94-98 Stang I have ever raced, and 2 LT1's including a 92 Vette. I know, under no circumstances should I have beat 2 LT1's, but the thing is is that I did. Call b/s if you want, but I promise you I did. And I have people that were there to witness it. Anyway, an engine swap is at the least $2500, and that's a pretty basic 350. I dont know jack about TBI, but if I was in your position, I would buy a stealth ram.

Stealth Ram = God's gift to us 3rd genners.

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Originally posted by Rage
I dont know jack
Well said

The SR is a good upgrade IF you already have a TPI to build upon. Otherwise, you will have to buy the entire system. That's $2500!
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Originally posted by CODY BEHNKE
Some people don't know much about 3rd gens do they?

TBI was standard in all 1988-1992 Formulas and 1988-1990 IROCS.
could someone explain my 1990 tpi iroc then?
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could someone explain my 1990 tpi iroc then?
The 305 TBI was the base engine, most IROCs, Z28s, Trans Ams, GTAs(not sure about GTAs), etc have TPI systems, but they could've came with a TBI.
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ah i get what he ment by standard. makes sense
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Originally posted by Beast5spdGTA
The 305 TBI was the base engine, most IROCs, Z28s, Trans Ams, GTAs(not sure about GTAs), etc have TPI systems, but they could've came with a TBI.
GTAs came stock with the l-98 the l-b9 was available but as a credit option meaning it lowered the price of the car.
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Raise the BS flag all you want. Look at the slips Beast put down. Great documentation btw Beast. Ya, he got in the 14's, but for over $2000, and that was with 3.73's. Add another $400 for the gears and installation. A STOCK 350 can run that time or better. No offense, but the 305 just can't compete. Ya, they can run faster, but how much more money will it cost? My Bro-in-laws basically STOCK '86 5.0 Stang GT ran 14.03 with 2.73 gears. It did have flows as the only mod, but mufflers don't make that big of difference. Compare that to a friends '92 RS w/ the 305 TPI that ran in the 16's w/ a chip and a muffler.
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I dont know squat about third gens. How bout a shot of juice?Or wont the 305 take it?
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