octance recommended for 12:1 compression 357ci sbc
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octance recommended for 12:1 compression 357ci sbc
Does anybody know what the recommended octane rating for a 357ci SBC w/ 11.5:1 to 12:1 compression. This is for a street car not a drag racer. The engine has World Sportsman II heads, domed ROSS forged pistons with -15.20 cc head vol. and 1.268 in comp. dist. And a Crower solid roller cam #00431 258/262 dur @ .050 and .626 lift w/ 1.5 roller rockers and 105 lobe seperation. It has a forged crank and crower forged connecting rods with ARP head and main bolts.
I don't know the head gasket thickness. Will this engine run off of pump gas 92-94 octane or am I going to have to run race fuel of 100-105. I know the engine would be happier with the higher octane but I'll like to drive it not just race it a few times a year.
I don't know the head gasket thickness. Will this engine run off of pump gas 92-94 octane or am I going to have to run race fuel of 100-105. I know the engine would be happier with the higher octane but I'll like to drive it not just race it a few times a year.
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Those are iron heads which doesn't help any...but with a large cam and a loose converter, it might run ok on pump gas. It's really a trial and error situation. I'd keep the timing around 34 degrees and take it for a spin. Check the plugs for signs of detonation which would be small black specs on the porcelin area of the plug. Spark plug is also a factor. I'd run a 6 or 7 heat range plug. That's 2-3 ranges colder than stock.
It should be pretty mean sounding too.. I have a cam that size in a stroker and it turns heads...I'd guessing yours will want to idle around 1200-1500rpm and it will appreciate being shifted just past 7000rpm if you have a decent intake/carb/exhaust setup. At the track, it would make a great deal more power if you ran a race gas like VP113 and jetted the carb up 2-3 jet sizes all around and it would also guarantee that it will run safe. Goodluck and report back if you can.
It should be pretty mean sounding too.. I have a cam that size in a stroker and it turns heads...I'd guessing yours will want to idle around 1200-1500rpm and it will appreciate being shifted just past 7000rpm if you have a decent intake/carb/exhaust setup. At the track, it would make a great deal more power if you ran a race gas like VP113 and jetted the carb up 2-3 jet sizes all around and it would also guarantee that it will run safe. Goodluck and report back if you can.
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Thanks for your input. What plugs would you recommend. Brand? part #'s For the time being, until I can afford a better one, I'll be using a Holley 750 3310 w/ vaccum secondaries. I personally think the carb may hinder the potental of this engine. But hey, use what ya got.
Last edited by RacingJWalter; 01-12-2009 at 10:45 PM.
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NGK V-Force 739-UR6 is what I'd try. (UR6 for short) it's 2 steps colder than stock(UR4)
V-Power Resistor Spark Plug
14mm x .460" Reach
5/8" Hex
Projected
Tapered seat
(you'll call it a UR6, the LS guys would call it a TR6, gasketed would be called a FR6 basically..it's all in the seat/reach design, etc)
Your carb shouldn't be much of a problem. I run a 780cfm carb and yeah it MIGHT be giving up 10-20hp, it drives like EFI so it's worth it. Hopefully yours does the same. Goodluck!
I'd also install ALL of the plugs and turn the engine over BY hand 2-3 revolutions to make sure the pistons don't touch the projected tip plugs. I don't know what you have now or what kind of interference the World heads might have with a domed piston and if they suggest a projected or NON projected tip plug. Odds are they want a projected tip like the UR6 but turn it over slow just to be safe...remove them and make sure they aren't "bent" or touched at all...haha better safe than sorry.
V-Power Resistor Spark Plug
14mm x .460" Reach
5/8" Hex
Projected
Tapered seat
(you'll call it a UR6, the LS guys would call it a TR6, gasketed would be called a FR6 basically..it's all in the seat/reach design, etc)
Your carb shouldn't be much of a problem. I run a 780cfm carb and yeah it MIGHT be giving up 10-20hp, it drives like EFI so it's worth it. Hopefully yours does the same. Goodluck!
I'd also install ALL of the plugs and turn the engine over BY hand 2-3 revolutions to make sure the pistons don't touch the projected tip plugs. I don't know what you have now or what kind of interference the World heads might have with a domed piston and if they suggest a projected or NON projected tip plug. Odds are they want a projected tip like the UR6 but turn it over slow just to be safe...remove them and make sure they aren't "bent" or touched at all...haha better safe than sorry.
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