Cutting grooves into heads
#1
Cutting grooves into heads
I heard about this when I was in India in 1999. I thought it was ghetto back then but its really catching on.
Any thoughts?
http://www.herningg.com/projects/groovyheads.html
http://somender-singh.com/content/view/7/31/
http://somender-singh.com/content/view/68/49/
http://fueleconomytips.com/index.php...id=73&Itemid=2
http://jeremiahsviolins.com/grooves.htm
Any thoughts?
http://www.herningg.com/projects/groovyheads.html
http://somender-singh.com/content/view/7/31/
http://somender-singh.com/content/view/68/49/
http://fueleconomytips.com/index.php...id=73&Itemid=2
http://jeremiahsviolins.com/grooves.htm
#2
Re: Cutting grooves into heads
It helps burn efficiency(hense power and knock) - when the piston comes to TDC, that groove creates a high pressure surge of air into the quench area that helps ditribute the mixture in the combustion chamber. < - Cliff Notes. You should see the burn pattern in the chambers and piston tops that come out of motors set up that way - looks perfect.
#3
Re: Cutting grooves into heads
Pretty interesting but wouldn't positioning of the groove be critical for best performance. It just seems to half hazard to me that a guy is breaking out his dremel tool to do this.
#6
Re: Cutting grooves into heads
Turbulant flow as apposed to a smooth laminar flow will cause air to "stick" to the surface. Thats why on a good port and polish job you actually try to scuff up the intake side a little. Example a golf ball flying through the air.
Maybe i will try this on my jet ski for fun. Head comes off pretty easily and that 2 cycle could def use a better burn pattern
Maybe i will try this on my jet ski for fun. Head comes off pretty easily and that 2 cycle could def use a better burn pattern
Last edited by cause4panic; 08-08-2006 at 09:04 AM.
#8
Re: Cutting grooves into heads
I think most understand this but I'm going to say it anyway for people running out to rip there heads off and perform the surgery.
I hope anyone reading this understands not to go past the inside edge of the head gasket....otherwise you will have issues.
I hope anyone reading this understands not to go past the inside edge of the head gasket....otherwise you will have issues.
#9
Re: Cutting grooves into heads
Originally Posted by km9v
But doesn't turbulent flow slow or lower the amt. of air traveling through a port as opposed to a slick smooth port?
#10
Re: Cutting grooves into heads
Originally Posted by GetaZforgetGT
I think most understand this but I'm going to say it anyway for people running out to rip there heads off and perform the surgery.
I hope anyone reading this understands not to go past the inside edge of the head gasket....otherwise you will have issues.
I hope anyone reading this understands not to go past the inside edge of the head gasket....otherwise you will have issues.
#11
Re: Cutting grooves into heads
Originally Posted by km9v
If increasing turbulence is better, why do people port & polish?
Far as polishing most of the time that is done it is because the person didn't know what they were doing and mistakenly thought it benificial.
I don't even buy the polish the exhaust port leave it a tad rough so carbon can stick and insulate the head a mlittle from the exhaust gas heat. If the motor is running right the carbon will not accumulate to the point of any restriction.
#12
Re: Cutting grooves into heads
The groove is to push the fuel mixture out of the quench area into the combustion pocket closer to the plug, for a more complete burn. In tests there have been no HP gains,just fuel mileage gains. It may help detonation but that has not been proven either. Right now it is just an experiment.
Don't know about everybody else but I want the quickest ET not the least amount of fuel burned in a pass. Do they give trophies for that.
There is a guy down here cutting 4 grooves across the quench area. He has also done radial grooves,but their car didn't gain any measurable ET/MPH.
Don't know about everybody else but I want the quickest ET not the least amount of fuel burned in a pass. Do they give trophies for that.
There is a guy down here cutting 4 grooves across the quench area. He has also done radial grooves,but their car didn't gain any measurable ET/MPH.
Last edited by 1racerdude; 08-08-2006 at 10:11 PM.
#13
Re: Cutting grooves into heads
Originally Posted by Gripenfelter
I heard about this when I was in India in 1999. I thought it was ghetto back then but its really catching on.
Any thoughts?
http://www.herningg.com/projects/groovyheads.html
Any thoughts?
http://www.herningg.com/projects/groovyheads.html
#14
Re: Cutting grooves into heads
Originally Posted by cause4panic
These guys are documenting gains. I have no idea about lowered et's etc...