Good ways to learn more about engine internals?
#1
Good ways to learn more about engine internals?
When I play with my car I like to do stuff myself, not only to save my but to have the knowledge for doing the next time. This summer I really started thinking about the engine. It was a simple waterpump change that convinced me that the stuff with the engine is tedious, but I save myself 150$ in the process. But I want to learn more about internal engine stuff. I'm planning on having a new engine built, and when they tell me its gonna be 450$ fot just assembly, I say WOW. I know this is totally out of my league to just put the interals all together, but what can I do to start learning more about these kinds of things?
Last edited by RacerTim; 12-06-2003 at 04:54 PM.
#3
I might suggest getting and old v8 engine be it a 307, 305, or even a 4.3L V6. You should be able to get something real cheap. Take it apart and put it back together. That might be a good way to learn.
Invest in some good reference material too. That way you can be doing the hands-on and reading at the same time.
Ben T.
Invest in some good reference material too. That way you can be doing the hands-on and reading at the same time.
Ben T.
#4
Hey dude......look at my sig. Until august I had a total stock vehicle excapt for a CAI and some bolt ons and I had never touched a car engine. I did all that myself with a friend and the help of the awesome guys on this board. Took engine out, tore apart....assembled and put back in myself. Started as soon as I touched the ignition, and idled perfect.
Not only to learn but its an awesome feeling of achievement to do something like this. It's not nearly as hard to do as you would think. I was shocked actually how ez it was. I got a manual and read that thing crazy.
My machinist said this and I have used it every since. "80% is planning and 20% is doing." So true. Just take your time and double check everything before you do it. You'll be fine.
Not only to learn but its an awesome feeling of achievement to do something like this. It's not nearly as hard to do as you would think. I was shocked actually how ez it was. I got a manual and read that thing crazy.
My machinist said this and I have used it every since. "80% is planning and 20% is doing." So true. Just take your time and double check everything before you do it. You'll be fine.
#5
S.J.S. what referance materials did you use and what manuel. I am also getting into do everything my self and so far all i have is Auto Repair for Dummies, and i will be doing my own oil change within 200 miles.
#6
S.J.S..... I'm assuming what you mean is you installed all the bottom end components yourself? Thats what I would really like to learn to do, I just don't know what all equipment, besides a torque wrench, would be involved and if I would have access to it. Any books or specific refrences you would suggest to help me in this area?
#7
What engine are you planning to rebuild.... there is an LT1 specific rebuild manual available.....
How to Rebuild LT1/LT4.........
Lot's of books available on the Gen 1 small block Chevy's as well.
How to Rebuild LT1/LT4.........
Lot's of books available on the Gen 1 small block Chevy's as well.
#9
John Lingenfelter's book on the small block Chevy is excellent, though it has little LT1 specific info. Any of David Vizzard's books are worth reading, though they are a little dated and therefore don't get into fuel injection much.
Rich Krause
Rich Krause
#10
Make sure you read up on the assembly process.
$450 is cheap and around the average price for assembly and it's probably the most taxing lowest pay any shop does per hour, if they do it correctly.
It can go from basics of just putting parts together to really blueprinting and making sure every part is 100% accurate and the tolerances are all correct. Doing this requires expensive measuring equipment, knowledge and the tools needed to fix it. Things like a Hone, Mill, Lathe and surface grinder come in handy when you are doing all of this.
Bret
$450 is cheap and around the average price for assembly and it's probably the most taxing lowest pay any shop does per hour, if they do it correctly.
It can go from basics of just putting parts together to really blueprinting and making sure every part is 100% accurate and the tolerances are all correct. Doing this requires expensive measuring equipment, knowledge and the tools needed to fix it. Things like a Hone, Mill, Lathe and surface grinder come in handy when you are doing all of this.
Bret
#11
Originally posted by SStrokerAce
Make sure you read up on the assembly process.
$450 is cheap and around the average price for assembly and it's probably the most taxing lowest pay any shop does per hour, if they do it correctly.
It can go from basics of just putting parts together to really blueprinting and making sure every part is 100% accurate and the tolerances are all correct. Doing this requires expensive measuring equipment, knowledge and the tools needed to fix it. Things like a Hone, Mill, Lathe and surface grinder come in handy when you are doing all of this.
Bret
Make sure you read up on the assembly process.
$450 is cheap and around the average price for assembly and it's probably the most taxing lowest pay any shop does per hour, if they do it correctly.
It can go from basics of just putting parts together to really blueprinting and making sure every part is 100% accurate and the tolerances are all correct. Doing this requires expensive measuring equipment, knowledge and the tools needed to fix it. Things like a Hone, Mill, Lathe and surface grinder come in handy when you are doing all of this.
Bret
OTOH, if it's just freshening up a previously well assembled motor with new rings and bearings, that's a pretty straightforward job that many of us could do. Ditto for a cam install, etc.
Rich Krause
#12
Originally posted by RacerTim
S.J.S..... I'm assuming what you mean is you installed all the bottom end components yourself? Thats what I would really like to learn to do, I just don't know what all equipment, besides a torque wrench, would be involved and if I would have access to it. Any books or specific refrences you would suggest to help me in this area?
S.J.S..... I'm assuming what you mean is you installed all the bottom end components yourself? Thats what I would really like to learn to do, I just don't know what all equipment, besides a torque wrench, would be involved and if I would have access to it. Any books or specific refrences you would suggest to help me in this area?
Dunno how this motor will last but I know I wont regret it. Oh yeah.....its good to have a mechanic friend hang out with ya while you do it. I had a firend hanging out who I told to just watch.....if you see anything I'm going wrong let me know. Also make sure its a "NO BEER ZONE".
#13
Originally posted by S.J.S.
Also make sure its a "NO BEER ZONE".
Also make sure its a "NO BEER ZONE".
Bret
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