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10-30-2003, 10:17 PM
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the interior of my camaro was clothe (two tone seats w/ dark gray dash) and the interior of my trans am is leather. the only thing that i can think of that i like better about the trans am (interior) is the red guages. now, the audio issue was different for me. i had premium sound in my camaro (that bose 4.5" was AWESOME! it was louder then a jl 10w0) and i have the stupid stock speakers in my trans am....also, i dunno what you guys are talking about, but BOTH the t56 and 4l60e are great trannys. unless you plan on modding a bit you shouldn't have any problems with them (unless you have a tendency to dump the clutch at 5 grand or like to just cruise down the road and shove it in reverse 
)...one more thing, my first car was the '95 camaro w/ the 3.4 and i converted the entire drivetrain to a lt1's. it was a little more fun that way (w/ the v6 suspension and "one wheel peel") but it cost more to do that then to buy a camaro w/ the lt1 in it. BUT, insurance was cheap ($183 a month for full coverage, which is a lot better then what i'm paying now)
)...one more thing, my first car was the '95 camaro w/ the 3.4 and i converted the entire drivetrain to a lt1's. it was a little more fun that way (w/ the v6 suspension and "one wheel peel") but it cost more to do that then to buy a camaro w/ the lt1 in it. BUT, insurance was cheap ($183 a month for full coverage, which is a lot better then what i'm paying now)
Last edited by Wolf Warrior; 10-30-2003 at 10:22 PM.
10-31-2003, 12:03 AM
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bad stuff
1. roll down the windows a bit when the car is a little wet and it runs all over you.
2. go to clean the trunk area after you washed it and water runs in the car
2. heavy
3. stock rims are lame
good stuff
1. fast
2. cockpit feeling when you sit in the seats
3. looks awesome
4. exhaust sounds mean after some work
5. lots of other stuff i cant think of
lt1's are awesome engines, get a z28 you wont regret it for a second
and wolfman, i think you are getting ripped off on your insurance, i pay 180 a month for full coverage on my z28. i am 17 now but i got the car when i was 15 (all my own money too) and paid 180 a month when i was 16
1. roll down the windows a bit when the car is a little wet and it runs all over you.
2. go to clean the trunk area after you washed it and water runs in the car
2. heavy
3. stock rims are lame
good stuff
1. fast
2. cockpit feeling when you sit in the seats
3. looks awesome
4. exhaust sounds mean after some work
5. lots of other stuff i cant think of
lt1's are awesome engines, get a z28 you wont regret it for a second
and wolfman, i think you are getting ripped off on your insurance, i pay 180 a month for full coverage on my z28. i am 17 now but i got the car when i was 15 (all my own money too) and paid 180 a month when i was 16
10-31-2003, 05:58 AM
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Originally posted by 94z28blue
bad stuff
1. roll down the windows a bit when the car is a little wet and it runs all over you.
2. go to clean the trunk area after you washed it and water runs in the car
2. heavy
3. stock rims are lame
good stuff
1. fast
2. cockpit feeling when you sit in the seats
3. looks awesome
4. exhaust sounds mean after some work
5. lots of other stuff i cant think of
lt1's are awesome engines, get a z28 you wont regret it for a second
and wolfman, i think you are getting ripped off on your insurance, i pay 180 a month for full coverage on my z28. i am 17 now but i got the car when i was 15 (all my own money too) and paid 180 a month when i was 16
bad stuff
1. roll down the windows a bit when the car is a little wet and it runs all over you.
2. go to clean the trunk area after you washed it and water runs in the car
2. heavy
3. stock rims are lame
good stuff
1. fast
2. cockpit feeling when you sit in the seats
3. looks awesome
4. exhaust sounds mean after some work
5. lots of other stuff i cant think of
lt1's are awesome engines, get a z28 you wont regret it for a second
and wolfman, i think you are getting ripped off on your insurance, i pay 180 a month for full coverage on my z28. i am 17 now but i got the car when i was 15 (all my own money too) and paid 180 a month when i was 16
But yeah, I'd like a '93 or '94 Z28 t-top...I live in PA and the insurance would be under my PARENTS' names...so where do you think I would stand as far as insurance? (when I'm 16) Also, is your insurance under YOUR name, or your parents'?
Last edited by Tatanko; 10-31-2003 at 06:01 AM.
10-31-2003, 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by pu12en12g
You can program the speed limiter out with software like Tunercat or LT1 edit. You can replace the stock gears fairly cheaply, and get a HD tranny rebuild with a shift kit.
You can program the speed limiter out with software like Tunercat or LT1 edit. You can replace the stock gears fairly cheaply, and get a HD tranny rebuild with a shift kit.
Anyone want to give me some ideas about the insurance questiosn I asked?
10-31-2003, 05:20 PM
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when i was 16, full coverage under my name was 183 a month. now, i'm 17 and have one ticket, i paid 210 a month for full coverage and something like 80 for plpd...in a couple of week i'll be paying like 20 for storage insurance...putting it in your parents name will help A LOT. if any car in your family has plpd, put your name on that and it'll be a lot cheaper. my family is friends with the insurance guy and he says that just as long as your name is somewhere on the claim, your covered, no matter what car it's on, and a 16 year old will have cheaper insurance on a corvette with plpd then with a ford escort with full coverage.
10-31-2003, 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by Wolf Warrior
when i was 16, full coverage under my name was 183 a month. now, i'm 17 and have one ticket, i paid 210 a month for full coverage and something like 80 for plpd...in a couple of week i'll be paying like 20 for storage insurance...putting it in your parents name will help A LOT. if any car in your family has plpd, put your name on that and it'll be a lot cheaper. my family is friends with the insurance guy and he says that just as long as your name is somewhere on the claim, your covered, no matter what car it's on, and a 16 year old will have cheaper insurance on a corvette with plpd then with a ford escort with full coverage.
when i was 16, full coverage under my name was 183 a month. now, i'm 17 and have one ticket, i paid 210 a month for full coverage and something like 80 for plpd...in a couple of week i'll be paying like 20 for storage insurance...putting it in your parents name will help A LOT. if any car in your family has plpd, put your name on that and it'll be a lot cheaper. my family is friends with the insurance guy and he says that just as long as your name is somewhere on the claim, your covered, no matter what car it's on, and a 16 year old will have cheaper insurance on a corvette with plpd then with a ford escort with full coverage.
Also...if you paid 183...I don't have too much knowledge on what's high and low...but that sounds like it'd be reasonably low for a 16-year-old with a Camaro
Is that low?Tell me what all you think I should do as far as the insurance to get it low enough to a level my parents would pay for...
11-01-2003, 12:36 AM
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no fault (or "plpd") means the insurance only covers the other person in an accident. so if you hit somebody your insurance won't fix your car. its the lowest type of insurance you can get and still have insurance. also, it was only 183 because it was registered as a v6. my trans am is 210 a month for full coverage.
11-01-2003, 12:43 AM
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Originally posted by Tatanko
Cheaper...price of the car itself is cheaper, the conversion isn't very expensive (same as a body kit as far as price really)...I mean, c'mon, it's my first car. I also don't want to have to pay that kind of insurance.
Cheaper...price of the car itself is cheaper, the conversion isn't very expensive (same as a body kit as far as price really)...I mean, c'mon, it's my first car. I also don't want to have to pay that kind of insurance.
11-01-2003, 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by chasmanz28
maybe you dont realize but the 98 conversion well cost around 2500 bucks after all said and done, if you go aftermarket on parts it would be a little cheaper
maybe you dont realize but the 98 conversion well cost around 2500 bucks after all said and done, if you go aftermarket on parts it would be a little cheaper
11-01-2003, 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by Wolf Warrior
no fault (or "plpd") means the insurance only covers the other person in an accident. so if you hit somebody your insurance won't fix your car. its the lowest type of insurance you can get and still have insurance. also, it was only 183 because it was registered as a v6. my trans am is 210 a month for full coverage.
no fault (or "plpd") means the insurance only covers the other person in an accident. so if you hit somebody your insurance won't fix your car. its the lowest type of insurance you can get and still have insurance. also, it was only 183 because it was registered as a v6. my trans am is 210 a month for full coverage.
11-01-2003, 09:32 PM
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the seats may be understuffed (1986) but I think it's comfortable. I'm 6 foot 175lbs.
The only thing I don't like about my '86 is the leg room but that can be helped.
The '86 is one of the most comfortable cars I've driven (other than an Intrepid and Taurus
The only thing I don't like about my '86 is the leg room but that can be helped.
The '86 is one of the most comfortable cars I've driven (other than an Intrepid and Taurus
11-02-2003, 12:51 AM
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Originally posted by Tatanko
Thank you for the list
My next question is, how did you go about fixing all of these things? I know not many are thrilled with the headlights (mine will be replaced with 98+). The stock audio system to me isn't too bad if it's Bose (except I'd maybe put another sub in the back, the Bose, stock-looking kind)...wheels are an easy fix, obviously (C5 rims personally)...I know a friend of mine with a V6 had a shop change his gear ratios and it made a world of difference...exhaust is another easy fix, so is speed limiter (how do you fix that, actually?)...weight can't really be fixed without sacrificing interior comfort, but it's dealable...
What I want to know is, how did you fix the wheel offset, stick height, speed limiter, and tranny issues?
I know some Camaro's have rear drum brakes...which years/models were they? (or all?) Which I spose is fixable, just get some disc brakes...
Thank you for the list
My next question is, how did you go about fixing all of these things? I know not many are thrilled with the headlights (mine will be replaced with 98+). The stock audio system to me isn't too bad if it's Bose (except I'd maybe put another sub in the back, the Bose, stock-looking kind)...wheels are an easy fix, obviously (C5 rims personally
)...I know a friend of mine with a V6 had a shop change his gear ratios and it made a world of difference...exhaust is another easy fix, so is speed limiter (how do you fix that, actually?)...weight can't really be fixed without sacrificing interior comfort, but it's dealable...What I want to know is, how did you fix the wheel offset, stick height, speed limiter, and tranny issues?
I know some Camaro's have rear drum brakes...which years/models were they? (or all?) Which I spose is fixable, just get some disc brakes...
In answer to you other questions:
1) Wheel offset is fixable with backspacers, or by purchasing wheels with a higher/lower offset than stock (somebody correct me if I'm wrong here, again, my car is still totally stock)
2) Speed limiter can be removed electronically either with a handheld reprogrammer (such as the Hypertech Power Programmer, ~$200-300, and not recommended, from what I hear) or a "mail-order" reprogramming (such as through www.pcmforless.com). Doing a mail-order tune is more economical if you lump it together with some other changes, such as wheel size, gear ratio, and a/f ratio if you swap in a new cam.
3) The T56 (M6) tranny, from what I hear, is a fairly strong tranny and for mildly modded cars, doesn't need a whole lot of work. The 4L60E (A4), isn't as strong, but tranny shops such as Century Trans in Houston (?) can rebuild a stock 4L60E into a "race-built" tranny, capable of 500+ HP, for as little as $1875, according to GMHTP (this assumes the tranny is like-new and doesn't need any other parts repaired/replaced). This isn't really necessary though, unless you want to run a big cam/N20/FI.
4) I'm 16, and insurance runs me $150-175/month (can't remember exactly) for liability coverage only. This may have gone down though, as CO has had some recent insurance laws changed. If you can afford to go without comprehensive (i.e. theft, hail, fire, flood, vandalism) and collision coverage, it will save you a lot of money, as comprehensive/collision are the only two types where insurers factor the type of vehicle into the premium.
Hope this helps, sorry for the long post!
