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Old 07-21-2005 | 09:18 AM
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I've been saying for as long as I was with GMI before and C&G now, GM just does not listen to anybody, Jim is right. It's all about General Motors with 0 input from outsiders or true enthusiasts. The Fastlane "Blog" has quickly became a joke as a means of communication.

E-Mail a person at General Motors and see how long it takes to get a response.

If the GMT900 pictures is any indication on how slow GM moves (and believe me, it is) it's no wonder the company is in the shape it is in right now. Talk about slow reaction (which is a different topic all together) and, again, you can see why the company is in the shape it is in today.

The corporate big wigs know what they're doing. They have the piece of paper from their Ivy League college that says so!

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Old 07-21-2005 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Buickman
Would highly recommend talking to the young lady. From the mouth of babes...
I'm sure she'll have many great ideas on how to streamline value streams, implement lean manufacturing techniques, continual improvement methods, new cookie making technology, new product development, etc...
Old 07-21-2005 | 09:34 AM
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Buickman, While some of your ideas are very good, they arent a be all, end all for helping GM. I liken your continous posting of the same ideas to the indoctrination used in communist countries, they believe if you hear something enough, eventually you will believe it.

Unless I missed it on your website, I have not seen you mention anything about the loss of the LeSabre and Century models despite the fact they just won JD Power quality awards. Or how about the buzz bringing back the Grand National would cause in Buick showrooms. You have a tough task in selling Buick's today no doubt.

The truth is GM's drop in market share can be atttributed to not having a balanced product portfolio by placing too much emphasis on trucks and SUV"s.
Old 07-21-2005 | 09:45 AM
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If our cute cookie consultant moves truckloads of product, do we care if she can bake or package? If GM acquired the company, they would decontent the chocolate chips, quit making "thin mints", layoff the workers, eliminate the badge program, ship boxing overseas, and claim their MBA's fully understand what the business is all about. Meanwhile our little sales girl would move on to Mary Kay.
Old 07-21-2005 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Buickman
Serious flaws? I'm not the one losing billions of dollars.
Because you haven't been given a chance.
Distraction? Yes, from a certain course toward bankruptcy.
Distraction from the good things GM has going for it because you harp on all the negatives. It really gets on people's nerves.
Convincing dealers as to the merits in improving the dealer experience is by far more beneficial than "controlling" the business of independent franchisees with spontaneous and ill-conceived marketing.
Convincing is easy to do to a small group of people in a given area with specific conditions. In a large nation with a greatly diverse audience it is even harder.
Ulterior motive is simply Return to Greatness.
And Rick Wagner is your best friend to right?

I am attempting to implement changes on the retail level. GM has no clue.
If you are implementing changes on the retail level then why go to GM they don't own the dealerships they simply use them as an outlet. Why not setup meetings with regional dealership reps and then with the actual managers of the dealerships, working as a consultatnt?
Zarrella had no experience, I do.
Actually he did have experience but not in the auto industry. I believe he worked in pharmacuticals. So he understood the corprate part but not the auto part. He was one side of the coin you are the other.
Reference the opinions detailed, they are only a small, representative sample.
It's the closed minded attitude you exhibit the really is the cause of GM's decline. Listen and learn before it's too late. FBod, you certainly have a wealth of knowledge, but per your own admission, you've been intimately involved in the meetings and decisions at GM. Time to pull out the mirror bro.
I don't think Scott needs to explain himself around here or anywhere to you, me or anyone else.

He may have been a cog in the wheel but with a structure as large and as complex I don't think you could fathom where and how decisions are made.
Old 07-21-2005 | 11:05 AM
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You're making this entirely too complex. The solution is simple, implement The Plan, gain share, reap profit, and grow through new products.
Old 07-21-2005 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Buickman
Well written, but wrong.
Return to Greatness will work.
First twenty deal with retail level as they are easiest to fix quickly.
GM's plan isn't working.
I've sold more of their products than just about anyone, so perhaps you should consider that I might know what I'm talking about.
Didn't ask, or demand, to be paid for ideas. I asked to be paid when, and only if, they work.
Product is included, just not in the first twenty.
Wagoner is, as has been, ruining the company. At least I have the nerve to stand up and say so.

Not to ba an a$$ but, are the salesman that sell computers at the local computer store qualified to tell IBM, compaq, etc. how to run the show?
Old 07-21-2005 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Buickman
You're making this entirely too complex. The solution is simple, implement The Plan, gain share, reap profit, and grow through new products.
Am I am the only one that thinks of the "underpants gnomes" by that statement.

Stage 1: Steal Underpants
Stage 2: ?
Stage 3: Profit
Old 07-21-2005 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Buickman
A winning image in the marketplace can overcome product weakness
I stopped reading after this sentance in the first paragraph.

If the foundation for your plan is based from this like Guy said you will not save GM.


Now I'll go back to reading the rest of this thread.
Old 07-21-2005 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Buickman
You're making this entirely too complex. The solution is simple, implement The Plan, gain share, reap profit, and grow through new products.
No, you are making this WAY to simple. Oversimplification of a complex process leads to problems.
Old 07-21-2005 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SMUJeremy
Am I am the only one that thinks of the "underpants gnomes" by that statement.

Stage 1: Steal Underpants
Stage 2: ?
Stage 3: Profit




Oh my God that is the best post in the last month dealing with Buickman!

Anyone who watches South Park would get that.

So true!
Old 07-21-2005 | 12:32 PM
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Again, see post regarding our girl scout cookie saleperson.
Old 07-21-2005 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Buickman
Serious flaws? I'm not the one losing billions of dollars.
But you don't manufacture any vehicles.
Old 07-21-2005 | 12:35 PM
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Well, if nothing else, the title of this thread made me laugh. I don't see you as a martyr, BM. What caused you to get banned from the shareholders' meeting was apparently your constant disruptions of the meeting in an attempt to carry out your vendetta against Wagoner....and during which, you gained no support.

I'd gain more respect for you here if you actually addressed the posts that Guy and Scott made in this thread. Use that "quote" button and start explaining yourself. Is it or is it not true that some of your ideas are flat out illegal in some states? How about we start with that and work our way up.
Old 07-21-2005 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Buickman
Again, see post regarding our girl scout cookie saleperson.
So it is
1. Steal underpants
2. Girl scout cookie salesperson
3. Profit.



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