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Old 07-12-2004 | 05:45 PM
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DCX annouces AWD LX pricing [Now with pics]

Here is the press release.

2005 AWD Dodge Magnum SXT Model

The Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) for the 2005 AWD Dodge Magnum SXT model is $27,900 (excluding $625 destination). This includes the added front differential, transfer case and all-wheel-drive front suspension, a five-speed automatic transmission with AutoStick®, 18-inch wheels and touring tires, performance disk brakes and a 19-gallon fuel tank with the 3.5-liter V-6 High Output engine.

2005 AWD Dodge Magnum RT Model

The MSRP for the 2005 AWD Dodge Magnum RT model is $31,370 (excluding $625 destination). This includes the addition of the front differential, transfer case and all-wheel-drive front suspension. (The five-speed automatic transmission, 18-inch wheels and touring tires, performance disk brakes and 19-gallon fuel tank already are included as standard equipment on the Dodge Magnum RT.)

2005 AWD Chrysler 300 Touring Model

The MSRP for the 2005 AWD Chrysler 300 Touring model is $29,370 (excluding $625 destination). The added front differential, transfer case and all-wheel- drive front suspension, a five-speed automatic transmission with AutoStick, 18-inch wheels and touring tires, performance disk brakes and a 19-gallon fuel tank are included with the 3.5-liter V-6 High Output engine on the AWD Chrysler 300 Touring model.

2005 Chrysler 300 Limited AWD Option

The 2005 Chrysler 300 Limited will be offered as an all-wheel-drive vehicle through an option package. In addition to the Limited model's standard equipment, this package will add the front differential, transfer case and all-wheel-drive front suspension, a five-speed automatic transmission with AutoStick, 18-inch wheels and touring tires, performance disk brakes and a 19-gallon fuel tank with the 3.5-liter V-6 High Output engine. The MSRP for 2005 Chrysler 300 Limited vehicles with the AWD option is $31,215 (excluding $625 destination).

2005 AWD Chrysler 300C Model

The MSRP for the 2005 AWD Chrysler 300C model is $34,195 (excluding $625 destination). This includes the addition of the front differential, transfer case and all-wheel-drive front suspension and 18-inch wheels. (The five-speed automatic transmission, touring tires, performance disk brakes and 19-gallon fuel tank already are included as standard equipment on the Chrysler 300C.)

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Old 07-12-2004 | 08:02 PM
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alrighty, this makes it official, now hte question is.... pearl white or black? =)
Old 07-12-2004 | 08:20 PM
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Let me get this straight.

I can get an AWD, Hemi powered, Chrysler 300C for about $5,000 LESS than the list on a front wheel drive V6 Buick Park Avenue, and for just about the same out-the-door price of a loaded front wheel drive Pontiac Bonneville, also with a V6?

..........dayum! I'm glad I didn't sell off my Chrysler stock last year!
Old 07-12-2004 | 08:22 PM
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I guess we don't know what these things are gonna weigh with the added hardware, do we? Those prices are very nice, but I'd imagine they will be a bit on the portly side.
Old 07-16-2004 | 01:51 AM
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Found a pic of the new wheels for the Magnum. Yeah


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Old 07-16-2004 | 07:44 AM
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I thought Chrysler was holding off on the Touring (wagon) for the US?
Old 07-16-2004 | 08:46 AM
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This goes back to that article that was posted awhile back. We're going to be seeing more and more AWD cars. The technology for AWD is getting better and better.
Old 07-16-2004 | 09:09 AM
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the oddest thing just happened. i was reading this thread and had to double check if i didn't follow a link from camaroz28.com and ended up at a Chrysler fan site.
Old 07-16-2004 | 11:52 AM
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Thumbs down But do you need it?

Originally posted by PaperTarget
This goes back to that article that was posted awhile back. We're going to be seeing more and more AWD cars. The technology for AWD is getting better and better.
Manfufactures also notice it as something buyers want. A large portion of the SUVs selling have awd. Does this mean they need it?

The perception for Joe Consumer is that awd is safer. Auto makers exploit this in advertising: "The new Mercury Monstrosity featuring all-wheel drive delivers improved braking and cornering." All-wheel drive doesn't aid either, but it sounds good. You could also argue such buyers drive their vehicles more aggressively feeling awd is going to bail them out.

Unless you consistently drive in deep, unplowed snow, most do not need awd which adds unnecessary weight and detracts from fuel economy.

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Old 07-16-2004 | 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by morb|d
the oddest thing just happened. i was reading this thread and had to double check if i didn't follow a link from camaroz28.com and ended up at a Chrysler fan site.
Ummm....... they don't make Camaros Z28s anymore.

Short of GTO, GM doesn't have any affordable RWD cars at the moment.

Can't exactly go offline till GM brings these cars back, can we?
Old 07-16-2004 | 01:57 PM
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Re: But do you need it?

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Manfufactures also notice it as something buyers want. A large portion of the SUVs selling have awd. Does this mean they need it?
We don't need Camaros, Mustangs, Chargers, etc...we could all drive little steal boxes.

Originally posted by jrp4uc
The perception for Joe Consumer is that awd is safer. Auto makers exploit this in advertising: "The new Mercury Monstrosity featuring all-wheel drive delivers improved braking and cornering." All-wheel drive doesn't aid either, but it sounds good. You could also argue such buyers drive their vehicles more aggressively feeling awd is going to bail them out.
The perception is reality. AWD IS safer. But like anything else, you have to know what its limits are. AWD does aid in cornering, I can prove it to you if you'd like to take a ride in my car. AWD cars also post some of the, if not the, fastest lane change times of any type of car. I see what you're saying though. For most buyers it's not going to make a difference (except perhaps in bad weather). Personally I notice the difference even on dry pavement...

Originally posted by jrp4uc
Unless you consistently drive in deep, unplowed snow, most do not need awd which adds unnecessary weight and detracts from fuel economy.
This was already covered in a another post in this forum. Many AWD myths and exaggerations will continue to exist in the uninformed public. Do some research, you might be impressed with how far along AWD has come.
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Re: Re: But do you need it?

Originally posted by PaperTarget
We don't need Camaros, Mustangs, Chargers, etc...we could all drive little steal boxes.

The perception is reality. AWD IS safer. But like anything else, you have to know what its limits are. AWD does aid in cornering, I can prove it to you if you'd like to take a ride in my car. AWD cars also post some of the, if not the, fastest lane change times of any type of car. I see what you're saying though. For most buyers it's not going to make a difference (except perhaps in bad weather). Personally I notice the difference even on dry pavement...

This was already covered in a another post in this forum. Many AWD myths and exaggerations will continue to exist in the uninformed public. Do some research, you might be impressed with how far along AWD has come.
Having owned a couple of awd cars (2 WRXs), I'm familiar with their capabilities. Relating need for Camaros to my argument is irrelevant. I'm saying we don't need awd Camaros, along with most other cars. One of the best (if not the best) handling cars is one of the lightest, the Lotus Elise (rwd). There are advantages to awd, but there are also disadvantages. Most urban-driving buyers will not see these advantages and pay more for a heavier, less effecient car. Traction control would seem to serve the needs of these buyers.

I'm not attempting to start another awd debate. Simply stating, the increased offering of awd is less likely tied to manufacturers offering great new technology as much as capitalizing on what is popular.
Old 07-16-2004 | 03:15 PM
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Look at it this way, more AWD car offerings stand to reduce demand for 4x4 SUVs, as some buyers just want the inclement weather capabilities of AWD.

When we bought the 99 Blazer, we looked at 2 and 4wd models. Went with the 4. Now it only snows really bad maybe 1 time every 3 years here, but it was sure nice to have 4wd that day. Also nice to switch it to auto-4wd when its really raining hard and have some more confidence that if you hit a big spot of standing water you will be able to better maintain vehicle control.

Now imagine something like the Magnum, which offers most of the daily practicality of a small SUV plus the confidence of AWD....why would you buy a massive, obstructive, gas hoarding SUV vs that?

To me its just a further blurring the lines between the traditional car and SUV/truck segments.
Old 07-16-2004 | 04:26 PM
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I thought Chrysler was holding off on the Touring (wagon) for the US?
The 300 Touring isn't a wagon. It's just what the call the model between the base and the Limited:

http://www.chrysler.com/300/features...?model=touring

Gets you the 3.5 liter, ESP, ABS, and some other goodies.
Old 07-16-2004 | 05:04 PM
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Re: Re: But do you need it?

Originally posted by PaperTarget
The perception is reality. AWD IS safer. But like anything else, you have to know what its limits are. AWD does aid in cornering, I can prove it to you if you'd like to take a ride in my car. AWD cars also post some of the, if not the, fastest lane change times of any type of car. I see what you're saying though. For most buyers it's not going to make a difference (except perhaps in bad weather). Personally I notice the difference even on dry pavement...



This was already covered in a another post in this forum. Many AWD myths and exaggerations will continue to exist in the uninformed public. Do some research, you might be impressed with how far along AWD has come.
AWD doesn't help in all cornering, it only helps when you are accelerating. One of the biggest problems with AWD/4WD is that a lot of ignorant drivers think they are god in bad weather and can drive the same as when it is dry. AWD/4WD doesn't help you brake any better in poor weather, in fact it hurts braking due to the added weight. Tires are the most important part of driving stability/safty. AWD/4WD like traction control is mostly just good at lower speeds, and stops you from getting stuck. Stability control is needed at highway speeds. The avrage non-performance driver doesn't need anything more than 2wd with trac and stability control. AWD cars also suck in deep snow. When it is deep you need ground clearance and that is were a 4x4 truck comes in handy.



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