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Old 10-17-2002, 12:14 PM
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Falcon GT, Boss Motor, contor blade IRS and Turbo 6

i got some piccies at the motor show !!!

http://www.micro-op.com.au/execls1/boss390a.jpg
http://www.micro-op.com.au/execls1/boss390b.jpg
http://www.micro-op.com.au/execls1/boss390c.jpg
http://www.micro-op.com.au/execls1/boss390d.jpg
http://www.micro-op.com.au/execls1/boss390e.jpg
http://www.micro-op.com.au/execls1/ba6ta.jpg
http://www.micro-op.com.au/execls1/cbladea.jpg
http://www.micro-op.com.au/execls1/cbladeb.jpg

sorry i names the files boss390 its suposed to be boss290 kw = 390hp....

and the turbo 6 with 6psi pumps out 320+ HP

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Let me digest this.....6 cylinders, 4 liters, 320hp!

That's only 20 hp less than the LS1 Corvette V8 folks!
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Yes, but we must not forget those turbos. So really, it is not that big a deal.
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I'm not too impressed with those numbers. 320hp out of a turbo 4.0L isn't too impressive. Toyota was doing 300+ hp out of a turbo 3.0L I6 with the Supra back in the day.
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I love how any time anything FI is coming up, people are like "Eh, that's easy to do with a supercharger/turbo"

Fact of the matter is, that's an engine that's going into a car. Not "oh this car was put out of production 5 years ago and cost $50,000 but had a similar output" crap.

If the power is getting to the car, who cares how it gets there? Besides which, turbos and superchargers are great for beefing up. Big gains are to be had off of stuff like boost controllers and pulleys. A lot easier than cams and heads.

PS: That Boss 290 is SEX. I want to go to Australia.

I just realized something...

You know how all of the Import lovers are like "Yeah, the Japanese version is so much better, I want to have that one" blah blah blah....well we're getting that way with the Aussie cars.

"I HAVE AN A-SPEC LS1!!"

:-D har

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Don't get me wrong at all. I think 300hp out of that engine is incredible! I love it! But its just that to me, the hp figure isn't earth shattering, that's all. I love the look of the new Falcon GT. I wish I had one! And the new Boss 5.4? God. Ford needs to bring that stuff to America as a Muscle Car above the Mustang in size but below the Marauder in size.
A-Spec LS1?
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A 4.0 V6 that has twin turbo's and makes 320 hp is not that impressive at all. What is good is that they are actually building that motor and not just for show cars. If GM TT the inline 6, I would bet that the 320 hp number would be far eclipsed. It is strange that these motors are only for Australia..................
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lets not forget its only 6 pounds of boost, wind it up to 10-12 pounds and you could well expect around 400hp+, and ford says the internals can take a substantial boost increase.
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Originally posted by Ude-lose
lets not forget its only 6 pounds of boost, wind it up to 10-12 pounds and you could well expect around 400hp+, and ford says the internals can take a substantial boost increase.
Exactly...6psi is very conservative. What did the supra's run? I'm pretty sure it was more then 6psi. All these japanese turbo cars are running around 12psi stock. I know the Turbo eclipses/Talons were running around 12-14psi stock.

"Sneaky Neil", it's not like they'd start out at a 270Hp base if the Blazers I6 were to be turboed. For one thing, Compression would have to be dropped. A N/A motor and a F/I one wouldn't be built the same. I'm pretty sure GM wouldn't just take the blazers I6 and throw a turbo or 2 on and call it a day. Some changes would have to be made within the engine to insure reliability and longevity.
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Originally posted by RiceEating5.0
Exactly...6psi is very conservative. What did the supra's run? I'm pretty sure it was more then 6psi. All these japanese turbo cars are running around 12psi stock. I know the Turbo eclipses/Talons were running around 12-14psi stock.

"Sneaky Neil", it's not like they'd start out at a 270Hp base if the Blazers I6 were to be turboed. For one thing, Compression would have to be dropped. A N/A motor and a F/I one wouldn't be built the same. I'm pretty sure GM wouldn't just take the blazers I6 and throw a turbo or 2 on and call it a day. Some changes would have to be made within the engine to insure reliability and longevity.
Yeah, I realize that. I think I heard somewhere that the stock internals of the inline-6 were pretty good to start off with. I would like to see bigger displacement motors with turbos actually on cars in the US.
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Just for comparison, i found out that the 93+ supra TT had a stock boost setting of 11psi. Almost double that of the 6psi "ude-lose" said the stock falcon X-r6 pushes. That's a good difference.
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Can anyone translate the KW to HP on the non-turbo inline 6? I think that would better help compare how the Trailblazer's & Ford Austraila's inline 6s compare to each other.

Probally would have to add 10-15 horsepower to the Ford to make up for the exhaust restrictions due to Australia's stricter noise standards however.
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Originally posted by guionM
Can anyone translate the KW to HP on the non-turbo inline 6? I think that would better help compare how the Trailblazer's & Ford Austraila's inline 6s compare to each other.

Probally would have to add 10-15 horsepower to the Ford to make up for the exhaust restrictions due to Australia's stricter noise standards however.
The non turbo inline 6 is 245hp. This is a deliberate state of tune, I should point out. It's capable of 270hp without modification.
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