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Old 11-03-2004 | 11:55 PM
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I'm VERY surprised nobody has mentioned this yet!

We keep reading rumors of the LS7 being 7.0L, right? Well, one car at the SEMA show HAS THIS MOTOR IN IT!

Jay Leno's 1966 Olds Toronado has a 425cid (6.957L)

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specia.../leno/info.doc

Two hairdryers, no waiting
Reaching the 1,000-horsepower threshold for the Toronado’s engine was achieved with an intercooled twin-turbocharger system pumping 19 pounds of boost into a GM Performance Parts prototype 425-cubic-inch small-block crate engine. Developed in conjunction with GM Performance Division, the engine uses a modified aluminum block and cylinder heads from the Cadillac CTS-V racing program. They’ve been reconfigured to work as a high-performance street engine – a must for Leno, as he intends to use the Toronado as a daily driver.
Although not currently offered for sale by GM Performance Parts, the high-performance 425 engine serves as a real-world evaluator for potential new products.
“All the basic elements of this engine will soon be available in either the GM Performance Parts catalog or elsewhere in the GM parts system,” said Will Handzel, group manager, GM Performance Parts. “Participating in projects such as Jay’s Toronado gives GMPP the opportunity to ‘clinic’ high-performance combinations and evaluate ideas we might not otherwise would have considered. This engine made 1,000 horses without too much trouble, and it already has us thinking of future crate engine possibilities.”
A GM Performance-spec’d forged steel crankshaft and connecting rods are used on the bottom end of the 425 engine, along with custom forged aluminum pistons. When pushing up toward the CNC-ported aluminum cylinder heads, the pistons deliver an 8.3:1 compression ratio – a relatively low compression ratio required to ward off detonation in a turbocharged engine. The cavernous heads channel the huge volume of air generated by a pair of ball bearing-type turbochargers to the combustion chambers. High-flow GM Racing fuel injectors are used to match the airflow and a GM prototype camshaft actuates the valves – the camshaft is a high-performance item that may just reach production sooner than later.
High, prominent mounting of the turbochargers makes them impossible to miss when the Toronado’s hood is raised. They generate airflow that passes through a pair of intercoolers (mounted behind the radiator) and through a pair of GM mass air meters, where the pressurized air supply merges and enters the engine through a GM Gen IV V-8 90-mm electronically-controlled throttle body and composite intake manifold. A custom exhaust system was fabricated from scratch-built, stainless steel headers and is routed through a custom-fabricated stainless steel exhaust system.

I can't tell my source, but that intake manifold IS the LS7 intake

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specia...66HV_OL008.jpg
Old 11-04-2004 | 12:06 AM
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Well, it looks like those of you who are wealthy enough to buy a Z06 have a forged motor on your hands, serious congratulations.
Old 11-04-2004 | 12:13 AM
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Hrmm...very cool. But it doesnt say "this is the LS7".
Old 11-04-2004 | 12:26 AM
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no, it doesn't say that it is the LS7. But it does say that this is the motor that is used by the CTS-V Racecar.

Now that I think of it more, this could be evidence that GM is working on a turbo'd LS7 for the "BlueDevil" Corvette
Old 11-04-2004 | 12:38 AM
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Well, I knew that they used the 7.0 block for the CTS-V, but destroked it to be 5.7.
Old 11-04-2004 | 12:39 AM
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Don't tell me that the LS7 isn't a true 7.0L 427 like the LS1 which wasn't a real 350 5.7L.
Old 11-04-2004 | 12:45 AM
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I guess not? But like the 5.3 isnt a real 327, the 7.0 isnt a rea 427...

who gives...if it makes 500hp, its still cool in my book.
Old 11-04-2004 | 12:52 AM
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Hmmm, a 1000 horsepower Blue Devil. That has a nice ring to it.

Originally Posted by AdioSS
no, it doesn't say that it is the LS7. But it does say that this is the motor that is used by the CTS-V Racecar.

Now that I think of it more, this could be evidence that GM is working on a turbo'd LS7 for the "BlueDevil" Corvette
Old 11-04-2004 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by IZ28
Don't tell me that the LS7 isn't a true 7.0L 427 like the LS1 which wasn't a real 350 5.7L.
The LS1 was never said to be a 350, it has always been a 346, Hemi is a 345.

The Gen III based 7.0L 427's were actually 427.6, they rounded down instead of up.
Old 11-05-2004 | 06:01 PM
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some of you are a little too hung up on heritage. what does it matter that you cant call an ls1 a 350? do you consider the carrera gt to be old-school, because it has a 350 in it.
Old 11-05-2004 | 08:34 PM
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Re: Gen 4 7.0L motor at SEMA

any of you post or read at LS1tech.com?

If any of you know Rob Raymer, he was developing a twin turbo application for GM. Maybe this was it. Maybe Rob Raymer, who some believe to be a sketchy character, has aided in developing the Blue Devil engine...

Pure speculation. But he did have a very insanely fast stock LS1 engine w/ turbo.
Old 11-05-2004 | 09:19 PM
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Re: Gen 4 7.0L motor at SEMA

Originally Posted by Abidar
any of you post or read at LS1tech.com?

If any of you know Rob Raymer, he was developing a twin turbo application for GM. Maybe this was it. Maybe Rob Raymer, who some believe to be a sketchy character, has aided in developing the Blue Devil engine...

Pure speculation. But he did have a very insanely fast stock LS1 engine w/ turbo.
Yuppers...I've seen that car run in Bowling Green... Hadn't heard the rumors he was working with GM though.
Old 11-06-2004 | 01:05 PM
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I know a guy who works for Raymer maybe I should give him a call.

BTW I don't think they have enough credit to develop a turbo system for GM when GM has access to much much larger resouces with tons Turbo expretice, like SAAB. But hey anything can happen.
Old 11-07-2004 | 07:27 AM
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see the ls7 manifold close up , in a car that is currently in production

>>>>LS7 Manifold <<<<!!!
Old 11-07-2004 | 11:25 AM
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http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/tornado_jayleno.asp
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