Now THIS is a perfectly respectable response! There is nothing saying you are required to like a 4th gen! You like what you like, and that is wonderful!

You are not making any unfounded claims that the 3rd gen outperforms the 4th gen, or any of that stuff.

And, for the record, I have only been able to count one person who makes the trailer park comments...

 

I replied to your thread because you say some 4thgenners,ok .You said alot of 3rdgenners so reread my reply to that and you'll see why I responded that way.I'm not trying to be an a$$ towards you or any other 4thgenner.I'm just tired of the ignorant a$$es calling 3rds trailor park,up on blocks,mullet mobile false bs directed towards all 3rdgens.




[This message has been edited by 91Zman (edited July 16, 2002).]

 

I only found it surprising that the 2nd Gen was so well represented...around here it's almost impossible to find a 2nd gen in decent shape. I did not find the other numbers surprising. My ONLY point was to shoot down the theory that, and I quote, "no one likes 4th gens." That's all. Heck, there were 29 2002's there, many more than any other year, so there are quite a few people that still like and buy these cars (which was the original question in this thread.)

Haha as for my 14.6 1/4 mile time, no it isn't good. Like I also said in the sig, it was my first and only time drag racing AND it needed a tune-up. It still does.

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Mark

94 Z28, Red, A4, 3:23
Lone Mods--LPE CAI, !Lapeer Dragway.
(Hey, I'm a college boy I can't afford gobs of bolt-ons!)

Best time: 14.658 @ 95.1
with SES light on and Driver off! (First and only time at track)

The F-body will NEVER die.

 

as for my 14.6.......it got faster to 14.3

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by BadIroc:
[B]I'd definatly buy one in a heartbeat! That is one option on my list of a next car, that or another thirdgen or a 69 Z But I love everything about the 4th gen, looks, handling, and cant forget the nuts that those LS1 and LT1's have! But heres a good question, if they kept the 4th gen around for a couple more years until the 5th gen came out with out any hiatus do you think they would have made another minor change to the looks like they did in 98 with the headlights?? jus somthing to think about.

As soon as I saw a Camaro with a new style headlight and hood design I had to have one. The 93 through 97 Camaros looked like over sized Geo Metros or something with the blacked out area around the head lights.I ran out and bought a new V6, big mistake I traded it up on a 99 Z28 another mistake great car it was just bad timing. I sold that 99 and just bought a brand new '02 Rally Red SS and I love it!!I was thinking about holding out for the new GTO or 5th gen F bod but This SS was something I could see and feel............. and test drive!



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Proud owner of a bright red 2002 SS #8688. Former owner of a 99 Z28
SLP cold air induction
Whisper lid
K+N filter
Ported MAF, Flowmaster muffler with stock tips
Now my old stand by, a 94 Chevy C1500 with a 4.3 v6. At least it is extended cab and paid for!!

 

Obviously not stock(?) I have a hard time believing you got such a great time out of a 190 HP, 240 ft/lb torque 305. Not a flame, just wondering. Maybe you could gimme some pointers? (Also the track I ran at is not hardly known for its traction...)


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Mark

94 Z28, Red, A4, 3:23
Lone Mods--LPE CAI, !Lapeer Dragway.
(Hey, I'm a college boy I can't afford gobs of bolt-ons!)

Best time: 14.658 @ 95.1
with SES light on and Driver off! (First and only time at track)

The F-body will NEVER die.

 

No, I think the 4th gen has been around long enough, lets bring on the 5th gen.. With Big huge ***** (6.0 with small blower )

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hchap63@hotmail.com

01/SS, Black A4, TR224/112, ARE stage 2 heads, lid, FTRA, PMAF, PTB, Grott LT, true duals, NGK, ASP pulley, Vig 3200, LCA, poly TAB, Convo pros, ET Streets, 3300 raceweight. Little bit of juice..

Best ET: (All bolt ons) 11.496@116.42 (1.52)

Current best after Head & cam & nitrous:
10.88@124 (1.60)

Motown Muscle King of The Hill winner 6-8-02. Want some? Get some!!

RIP #3 Dirty Dale!!!

 

My problem with the 3rd gens: the 1980's. Everything 80's sits low with me. Sure the third gen sold a lot more, but nothing could compete with it back then. The 4th had to battle so many cars.

Also, anyone that says they like the 3rd gen interior is BSing hard. The gauges look like 80's garbage, and that wierd table top look dashboard was horrendous. I love the exterior of the 3rds though, but the engines that they came with sucked. I personally, have never seen a fast 3rd gen, let alone be beaten by one.

I love my 4th gen, and I like my friends 91 RS overall, but my favorite is definately the early 2nd gen. Any one see American Beauty with the 73 Trans Am? I think that's the best looking FBODY ever!

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<A HREF="http://community.webshots.com/user/stealthknight

2001" TARGET=_blank>http://community.webshots.com/user/stealthknight

2001</A> Camaro Z28
Black on Black

M6

Front & rear sway bars
Subframe Connectors
Flowmaster Exhaust w/ Cut-out
Clear corners
Head/taillight blackouts(Copicers don't like these)
Air lid
Free Ram Air
Limo tint on the back window
Eibach Pro-kit lowering springs
Ripper Shifter
White Face Gauges

 

The 4th Gen battled so many cars?? Who?? And it was the best performing car in its class also. The imports only became a factor recently. Your interior opinions are just that, I and others think different. The L98 Auto and LB9 5-Speed (G92's especially) were definetly good combinations. There were some others that were pretty good but those were the best. Theres no going against that. And I've seen modded L98's take LT1's and LS1's and there's definetly some fast 1's around. LB9's can be fast also but they obviously don't have as much ci.



[This message has been edited by IZ28 (edited July 18, 2002).]

 

It has been said before & i'm saying it again, people just don't know enough about the f-body. I just bought my first car (i'm 16) and i was showing it to some people, and one of the guys thought i had a v6 in it.
with more marketing and advertising sales wouldn't have slacked off so much. When was the last time you saw a commercial for a Camaro or Firbird?

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'97 Silver Trans Am
Leather
T-tops
no Ram-Air....yet
Lt1 350
Stock for now

 

I think increased (or any, for that matter) marketing might have created a "sales blip"...but it wouldn't have come close to saving the F-body.

 

Back in the 80's it was basically a Camaro or Mustang for anyone that wanted a sports car in that class. Now you've got Supras, Civics, Preludes, Celicas, M3's, etc. Hence, the 4th gen had many more competitors than the 3rd.

The 3rd gen interior is atrocious and I'm sure many would agree. Don't some 3rd gens have window louvres? Barf. The third gen back seat is smaller than mine and they didn't really come with good looking sets of rims. The IROC rims were cool, but those star shaped rims that came on every 80's GM vehicle were plain jane, and were even worse when painted to match the color of the car.

Some of the two toned color schemes, one for example being a red Camaro with wierd brown stripes down down the bottom sides of the car.

The 3rd gens with fins looked pretty cool, but the ones that came without desperately lacked anything resembling a sporty look.

Like I said in my last post, I see a lot of 3rd gens, I live just outside of LA, and all the 3rds I see are trashed, three shades of vomit colored wrecks.

As far as the "muscle car look" quoted throughout this thread...the 2nd gen had the muscles with fat fenders, wheel well flares, the huge wing on the back and the curved styling. From that, they made the Camaro a flat box, hardly a muscular look. I think t hey finally got that muscle look back with the 4th gen, especially when they added special hoods and fins on the SS models.

Sorry, the 4th gen rules


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<A HREF="http://community.webshots.com/user/stealthknight

2001" TARGET=_blank>http://community.webshots.com/user/stealthknight

2001</A> Camaro Z28
Black on Black

M6

Front & rear sway bars
Subframe Connectors
Flowmaster Exhaust w/ Cut-out
Clear corners
Head/taillight blackouts(Copicers don't like these)
Air lid
Free Ram Air
Limo tint on the back window
Eibach Pro-kit lowering springs
Ripper Shifter
White Face Gauges

 

Everything just stated in your post is opinion. And I disagree with you on pretty much all of it and I'm sure others do too.

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Camaro/Chevrolet crazy F-Body lunatic.

"The new GTO, the Grand Prix/Am of musclecars." http://oz.uc.edu/~padgetjr/compare.jpg

[This message has been edited by IZ28 (edited July 19, 2002).]

 

Oh ....maybe you're not aware of some of the Camaro's competitors of the '80s.

Here's some:

AMC Fuego
Chrysler Laser
Dodge Charger
Dodge Conquest
Dodge Daytona
Ford EXP
Ford Mustang
Mercury Lynx
Mercury (Merkur) XR4Ti
Plymouth Conquest
Plymouth Turismo
Honda CRX
Honda Prelude
Isuzu Impulse
Mazda RX7
Mitsubishi Mirage
Mitsubishi Starion
Nissan Pulsar NX
Nissan 200SX
Nissan 300ZX
Toyota Celica
Toyota Supra
Toyota Corolla GT-S
Toyota MR2
Alfa Romeo GTV-6
Audi Coupe GT
BMW 325
Porsche 924/944
........I'm getting tired....

 

....Volkswagen Scirocco.....