NAIAS a letdown?
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NAIAS a letdown?
I kinda agree with this article. All the big intros we pretty much knew and had seen in advance. Plus there were no surpises and some cars I expected were AWOL. Last year teh Sixteen was a complete surpise that had a "Holy ****!" factor to it. This year no car really had that...even Cadillac didn't even have a concept.
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Thursday, January 15, 2004
Detroit auto show seems humdrum, despite unveiling of 50 vehicles
By Paul Lienert / Autos Insider
Considering how upbeat much of the auto industry seems and how many new models are due to hit U.S. dealerships in the next twelve months, the 2004 Detroit auto show -- the first major international event of the season -- was surprisingly flat.
Known formally as the North American International Auto Show, this year's exhibition seemed to lack the usual buzz that has accompanied previous Detroit shows, despite the fact that more than fifty new production and concept vehicles were unveiled at Cobo Center.
As usual, the hometown contingent spearheaded the new-model premieres -- but it didn't have an awful lot of significant new hardware to crow about.
General Motors Corp. pulled the wraps off five new vehicles, following a similar performance a week earlier at the Los Angeles show.
In Detroit, GM focused on the sixth-generation 2005 Chevrolet Corvette -- which struck disappointed 'Vette loyalists as little more than a lukewarm face-lift with a cheap-looking interior -- as well as the sexy new 2006 Pontiac Solstice and its clever Kappa platform stablemates, the Chevrolet Nomad and Saturn Curve.
Curiously, there was no new Cadillac, a puzzling development considering the brand's overwhelming presence a year ago in Detroit when the stunning Sixteen concept took the media by storm.
Ford Motor Co. proclaimed 2004 the "year of the car", finally unveiling its long-touted Five Hundred mid-size sedan -- a puzzling and ultimately disappointing knockoff of a five-
year-old Volkswagen Passat -- and the Freestyle wagon, which appears to be Dearborn's home-
grown version of the original Volvo Cross Country.
Ford, which remains hopelessly mired in the past, continued this strain of "retrofuturism" with the debut of its latest super car, the Shelby Cobra, and a concept mini sport-ute that resurrected the old Bronco nameplate.
All told, Ford launched 10 new production and concept vehicles at the show, not counting new arrivals from its European subsidiaries.
With the possible exception of the Shelby and the next-generation Lincoln Aviator -- a car-based Lexus RX330 fighter that's at least five years too late -- none of the Ford vehicles ignited much enthusiasm among the press.
The German-owned Chrysler Group, part of the DaimlerChrysler AG family, did its best to steal a march on the Big Two with a top-secret super car of its own, the Chrysler ME Four-Twelve.
The quad-turbo twelve-cylinder coupe didn't shock onlookers as much as the wacky Tomahawk super-bike did at last year's show, and its ungainly and overwrought exterior design lacked grace and elegance.
Chrysler's other new concepts, the Dodge Sling Shot and Jeep Rescue, seemed, if not irrelevant, at least far removed from production.
All told, the group rolled out ten new production and concept vehicles, the most tasteful of which was the Crossfire roadster.
The European brands had little more than a low-key presence at the show, the highlights being limited to the BMW 6-series convertible, twelve-cylinder Audi A8 L 6.0 Quattro, and production-ready Mercedes-Benz Vision GST.
Volkswagen's California studio clearly had a fun time whipping up the Concept T, its take on the dune buggy of the 21st century. Ferrari already had released photos of its new 612 Scaglietti coupe, so the official Detroit unveiling was almost anticlimactic.
Among the Asians, Hyundai Motor Co. -- which last year unveiled the singularly hideous OLV concept -- astonished show-goers with the voluptuous HCD-8 concept coupe, perhaps one of the loveliest vehicles at the show and a darn sight more interesting than the new Corvette.
Mitsubishi Motors Corp. showed sensational concept versions of two future production models, including the next-generation Eclipse and a highly stylized derivative of the next-generation Dodge Dakota, which should reach Mitsubishi showrooms as an '06 model.
Honda Motor Co.'s first-ever pickup, a Pilot-based sport-
utility truck unimaginatively christened the SUT Concept, lacked fizz or flavor, particularly when viewed alongside Toyota's huge FTX, a striking preview of the next-generation Tundra full-size pickup due in 2006.
Toyota Motor Co.p.'s Scion subbrand launched its third model, the sporty tC coupe, while its upscale Lexus brand showed off the next-generation GS sedan -- basically a production-ready version of the LF-S concept from Tokyo.
Once again, a resurgent Nissan Motor Co. came into Detroit with guns blazing.
Infiniti popped the full-size QX56, which hopes to take on the Lincoln Navigator and the Cadillac Escalade, while the Nissan brand showed upcoming redesigns of the midsize Frontier pickup and Pathfinder SUV. All three vehicles borrow freely from the platform that underpins the big Titan pickup.
One of the more intriguing concepts was Nissan's Actic compact crossover, aimed at twenty-something families and known in development as Decabus.
It was not the prettiest vehicle at the show but certainly was among the most distinctive -- yet more proof of Shiro Nakamura's growing stature, confidence, and maturity as one of the world's top designers.
Thursday, January 15, 2004
Detroit auto show seems humdrum, despite unveiling of 50 vehicles
By Paul Lienert / Autos Insider
Considering how upbeat much of the auto industry seems and how many new models are due to hit U.S. dealerships in the next twelve months, the 2004 Detroit auto show -- the first major international event of the season -- was surprisingly flat.
Known formally as the North American International Auto Show, this year's exhibition seemed to lack the usual buzz that has accompanied previous Detroit shows, despite the fact that more than fifty new production and concept vehicles were unveiled at Cobo Center.
As usual, the hometown contingent spearheaded the new-model premieres -- but it didn't have an awful lot of significant new hardware to crow about.
General Motors Corp. pulled the wraps off five new vehicles, following a similar performance a week earlier at the Los Angeles show.
In Detroit, GM focused on the sixth-generation 2005 Chevrolet Corvette -- which struck disappointed 'Vette loyalists as little more than a lukewarm face-lift with a cheap-looking interior -- as well as the sexy new 2006 Pontiac Solstice and its clever Kappa platform stablemates, the Chevrolet Nomad and Saturn Curve.
Curiously, there was no new Cadillac, a puzzling development considering the brand's overwhelming presence a year ago in Detroit when the stunning Sixteen concept took the media by storm.
Ford Motor Co. proclaimed 2004 the "year of the car", finally unveiling its long-touted Five Hundred mid-size sedan -- a puzzling and ultimately disappointing knockoff of a five-
year-old Volkswagen Passat -- and the Freestyle wagon, which appears to be Dearborn's home-
grown version of the original Volvo Cross Country.
Ford, which remains hopelessly mired in the past, continued this strain of "retrofuturism" with the debut of its latest super car, the Shelby Cobra, and a concept mini sport-ute that resurrected the old Bronco nameplate.
All told, Ford launched 10 new production and concept vehicles at the show, not counting new arrivals from its European subsidiaries.
With the possible exception of the Shelby and the next-generation Lincoln Aviator -- a car-based Lexus RX330 fighter that's at least five years too late -- none of the Ford vehicles ignited much enthusiasm among the press.
The German-owned Chrysler Group, part of the DaimlerChrysler AG family, did its best to steal a march on the Big Two with a top-secret super car of its own, the Chrysler ME Four-Twelve.
The quad-turbo twelve-cylinder coupe didn't shock onlookers as much as the wacky Tomahawk super-bike did at last year's show, and its ungainly and overwrought exterior design lacked grace and elegance.
Chrysler's other new concepts, the Dodge Sling Shot and Jeep Rescue, seemed, if not irrelevant, at least far removed from production.
All told, the group rolled out ten new production and concept vehicles, the most tasteful of which was the Crossfire roadster.
The European brands had little more than a low-key presence at the show, the highlights being limited to the BMW 6-series convertible, twelve-cylinder Audi A8 L 6.0 Quattro, and production-ready Mercedes-Benz Vision GST.
Volkswagen's California studio clearly had a fun time whipping up the Concept T, its take on the dune buggy of the 21st century. Ferrari already had released photos of its new 612 Scaglietti coupe, so the official Detroit unveiling was almost anticlimactic.
Among the Asians, Hyundai Motor Co. -- which last year unveiled the singularly hideous OLV concept -- astonished show-goers with the voluptuous HCD-8 concept coupe, perhaps one of the loveliest vehicles at the show and a darn sight more interesting than the new Corvette.
Mitsubishi Motors Corp. showed sensational concept versions of two future production models, including the next-generation Eclipse and a highly stylized derivative of the next-generation Dodge Dakota, which should reach Mitsubishi showrooms as an '06 model.
Honda Motor Co.'s first-ever pickup, a Pilot-based sport-
utility truck unimaginatively christened the SUT Concept, lacked fizz or flavor, particularly when viewed alongside Toyota's huge FTX, a striking preview of the next-generation Tundra full-size pickup due in 2006.
Toyota Motor Co.p.'s Scion subbrand launched its third model, the sporty tC coupe, while its upscale Lexus brand showed off the next-generation GS sedan -- basically a production-ready version of the LF-S concept from Tokyo.
Once again, a resurgent Nissan Motor Co. came into Detroit with guns blazing.
Infiniti popped the full-size QX56, which hopes to take on the Lincoln Navigator and the Cadillac Escalade, while the Nissan brand showed upcoming redesigns of the midsize Frontier pickup and Pathfinder SUV. All three vehicles borrow freely from the platform that underpins the big Titan pickup.
One of the more intriguing concepts was Nissan's Actic compact crossover, aimed at twenty-something families and known in development as Decabus.
It was not the prettiest vehicle at the show but certainly was among the most distinctive -- yet more proof of Shiro Nakamura's growing stature, confidence, and maturity as one of the world's top designers.
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I have to agree, while I'm stuck here in Nebraska I thouhgt I'd at least see something more exciting than the Corvette and Shelby. Maybe I'm just dissapointed that there was no Camaro concept, I dunno. I was impressed with the vehicles released but as stated they were all things we've seen before. Then again maybe because I lurk on this message board so much I've seen more than the average public. I'm rambling... I'd give the show a B+
#3
I thought there would be more GM concepts than just the Curve, Nomad, and H3T (which wasn't there until Tues.)
Where are the Pontiac, GMC, Buick, and Caddy Concepts?? I was also hoping to see some Sema cars there when I went.
Where are the Pontiac, GMC, Buick, and Caddy Concepts?? I was also hoping to see some Sema cars there when I went.
#4
As the internet grows, there are going ot be fewer surprises... Cars liek the new Corvette are not going to actually 'debut' totally at the show anymore... it's all but impossible.
Even still, the Chrysler supercar and Shelby Cobra were two pretty big surprises, I'd say.
Even still, the Chrysler supercar and Shelby Cobra were two pretty big surprises, I'd say.
#5
As the internet grows, there are going ot be fewer surprises... Cars like the new Corvette are not going to actually 'debut' totally at the show anymore... it's all but impossible.
Even still, the Chrysler supercar and Shelby Cobra were two pretty big surprises, I'd say.
Even still, the Chrysler supercar and Shelby Cobra were two pretty big surprises, I'd say.
#6
Originally posted by Darth Xed
As the internet grows, there are going ot be fewer surprises... Cars like the new Corvette are not going to actually 'debut' totally at the show anymore... it's all but impossible.
Even still, the Chrysler supercar and Shelby Cobra were two pretty big surprises, I'd say.
As the internet grows, there are going ot be fewer surprises... Cars like the new Corvette are not going to actually 'debut' totally at the show anymore... it's all but impossible.
Even still, the Chrysler supercar and Shelby Cobra were two pretty big surprises, I'd say.
#7
The support that Kappa is getting is exciting to me. It's nice to see a production ready show car that is affordable, sporty, and RWD.
Being the huge Vette fan that I am, I'm always excited to see a new generation of it as well. Maybe after graduate school....
Being the huge Vette fan that I am, I'm always excited to see a new generation of it as well. Maybe after graduate school....
#8
which show was that clown at??
Shelby, stang, vette, bronco, McLaren SLR, Ferrari 612, etc...maybe that writer has literally seen it all and bores easily, but seeing all these cars in person was the highlight of my career
Shelby, stang, vette, bronco, McLaren SLR, Ferrari 612, etc...maybe that writer has literally seen it all and bores easily, but seeing all these cars in person was the highlight of my career
#10
Originally posted by Z28x
Where are the Pontiac, GMC, Buick, and Caddy Concepts?? I was also hoping to see some Sema cars there when I went.
Where are the Pontiac, GMC, Buick, and Caddy Concepts?? I was also hoping to see some Sema cars there when I went.
There ARE concepts being developed every day.....just not being shown........
#12
Originally posted by Red Planet
welll...there was the Kappa platform stuff...but to answer your question, the money right now is going into vehicles that you will be able to go out and buy......you can't buy concept cars.....while I'm not at liberty to give you a rundown of all the cars that GM, at least, will be bringing out in the next three years, suffice it to say that the number is sizable.......and with the costs to develop a new vehicle at the billion mark, hey......not as many concepts.
There ARE concepts being developed every day.....just not being shown........
welll...there was the Kappa platform stuff...but to answer your question, the money right now is going into vehicles that you will be able to go out and buy......you can't buy concept cars.....while I'm not at liberty to give you a rundown of all the cars that GM, at least, will be bringing out in the next three years, suffice it to say that the number is sizable.......and with the costs to develop a new vehicle at the billion mark, hey......not as many concepts.
There ARE concepts being developed every day.....just not being shown........
In the past we have always seen one concept from each brand, and 2 from Chevy (a car & truck) Is that not going to happen this year? Or are they just saving the others for later auto shows? I've heard rumors of a Buick coupe concept based on the next Gen Camaro/GTO platform, can't wait to see that car.
#13
In Detroit, GM focused on the sixth-generation 2005 Chevrolet Corvette -- which struck disappointed 'Vette loyalists as little more than a lukewarm face-lift with a cheap-looking interior
#14
To me, the only letdown is that I won't make it there this year. I would love to be there to see the new vette and mustang, the shelby car, the chrysler super car. Also the intro of production models which we frequently discuss here like G6, cobalt, solstice.
#15
I too felt the show was a bit lukewarm. I don't think it was the automakers fault but the internet and the fact that most of what I saw not for the first time.
Is it me or is the writer in the article just a bit too negative. I mean the C6 certainly isn't a striking departure from the C5 but it is a very very nice car and with many improvements over an already sweet car. I also think he's not giving enough credit to the fact the GTO is here, the Solstice and CTS-V are comming too. Hummer looks real strong this year.
Ford had a great display the F150 is looking good and selling strong. The Ford GT is an awsome machine and the new Mustang has a lot of potential. The Shelby Cobra what more can be said than WOW!
Chrysler's Crossfire roadster was nice, the Ram SRT is very cool and the Hemi 300 C is interesting to see. The 412 concept was a autoshow suprise.
Is it me or is the writer in the article just a bit too negative. I mean the C6 certainly isn't a striking departure from the C5 but it is a very very nice car and with many improvements over an already sweet car. I also think he's not giving enough credit to the fact the GTO is here, the Solstice and CTS-V are comming too. Hummer looks real strong this year.
Ford had a great display the F150 is looking good and selling strong. The Ford GT is an awsome machine and the new Mustang has a lot of potential. The Shelby Cobra what more can be said than WOW!
Chrysler's Crossfire roadster was nice, the Ram SRT is very cool and the Hemi 300 C is interesting to see. The 412 concept was a autoshow suprise.