My standards for logic aren't all that lofty. Is it too much to ask, that someone not make conflicting unrealistic demands on the Camaro, in the same post?

The new Mustang's grown a lot too, compared to 80's cars. It's now 3580 lb and 188 in. long, compared to 2827 lb and 179.6 in 1990 Mustangs (likely similar to the 82). The new Camaro's only a couple inches longer and wider than the 2010 Mustang... but I suppose the Mustang's too big for your stringent teeny-tiny sports car standards too

I happen to LIKE the feel and stance of a hefty American muscle car. I like knowing I've got some serious mass on my side in a crash. And I like that the new Camaro is IRS-equipped, to better handle real roads and curves. This car's powertrain choices more than make up for any issues of mass.



Those storm clouds in the background are what's gathering for all the competition

 

I can't understand the interior argument from people on this board.


Seriously, you couldn't buy a 5th gen because of it's "horrible" interior and yet you bought a 4th gen with it's horrible interior (even by the standard of the time it was created).

I loved the exterior and performance of all my three 4th gens, however, I always hated the cheap interiors.

I guess what I am saying is, if you could settle for the 4th gen interior, why not the 5th gen's?

 

Amen. And I've got to wonder... did some who voted "no" in this survey actually sit in a real 2010 Camaro already (that is after all an implicit requirement to vote in it)? Maybe there are some "poseurs" voting here who haven't actually seen or sat in a real unit...

 

No need to point out the incredibly obvious...however, not related to my point.

Guess that depends on what "logic" you apply to said demands in said post.

Is it too much to ask that someone else keep in mind that we are not ALL completely and totally brand/model loyal to the point of it being an obvious fault?

And the 05+ Mustang is absolutely too big. In my opinion. Given that it is smaller and quite a bit lighter than your Camaro, it is logical to assume that the Mustang is certainly not too big in your eyes, and perhaps even too small.

Logically opinionated.
Bob

 

When are you buying your new mustang?

 

I just finished the HRPT. There were PLENTY of 2010 Camaros on the cruise. It fit right in. No, that wasn't just in comparison with all of the old musclecars. I have pictures of it parked next to 3rd gens, Corvettes, 4th gens, B-bodies, etc. It doesn't look "massive". Agressive, yes, but not massive.

The Camaro was a big hit on the tour. Lots of people (including myself) taking pictures of them, talking to the owners, asking questions, etc. They were as much of a hit as the restored or highly customized classic cars.

 

It met my expectations perfectly.

 

Well, glad to hear that. The Camaros I've seen have drawn crowds too, just like the Challengers did when new and any number of other cars did. The fact that they were a big hit on Power Tour, (which I'm sure it was), or a cruise night, or whatever, and people are checking them out, doesn't make it not large and massive. In those crowds checking them out - and this I can promise you - were people who said, "nice lines, but it sure is HUGE".

 

First Gen = 186 in
Second Gen = 197.6 in.
Third Gen = 192.6 in
Forth Gen = 193.5 in
Fifth Gen = 190.4 in

2010 Mustang = 188.1 in

I agree about losing weight, 200lbs. lighter would be nice, but this is the safest, best handling and most fuel efficient Camaro ever. We didn't really give up much for the extra weight.

I feel like a lot of people would rather have a Chevy Cruze than a Camaro.

edit: Cruze is only 9" shorter than Camaro.

 

Exceeded them. I wasn't impressed by the production rear bumper or the interior in the pictures, but when I sat in one a couple weeks ago, my preconceptions of the rear bumper were washed away in an instant, and I like the interior as well. Overall, the car's a winner for me. I just wish I could afford to be driving one right now.

 

If your glad to hear that then you would love to know that pretty much every 2010 owner says they feel like a movie star. They say there are so many thumbs ups, waves, crowds everywhere they go and overall people just loving this car.

 

So true. It seems some are just out of touch with the realities of today's cars. We are very lucky today to have the three main muscle cars we do (new Mustang, Camaro and Challenger) and all three have weights/sizes that are right for their class and performance. Someday we might look back on 2009 and only then will the rest of us realize it....

 

275s aren't skinny (or even 245s). Its just that the size of the car makes the 245s seem skinny.

LOL, I remeber when 31 x 10.5s were really big truck tires, nowa days a 31 x 10.5s (metric tires around that size) are sorta small.

 

He's waiting for '11 of course! It promises to be a good year for Mustang.

 

First off, the Cruze is hardly a small car. It's about the size of the last gen Malibu and seats 5 people. I've sat in both the Camaro and Cruze, no comparison in roominess.

Beyond that, too bad you can't find a head on pic of a Cruze next to a Camaro. The fake air slot on the Camaro would probably be at the same height as midway up the Cruze's windshield.

Anyway, I don't want this to degenerate into a hate thread, just because I and others think the Camaro is disturbingly HUGE. If you love it, please buy and enjoy it. Every 5th gen sale further solidifies the 6th gen case....