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Old 11-18-2002 | 10:24 AM
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Pontiac GXP=Ford SVT

According to Lynn Myers (Pontiac-GMC general manager), GXP badged Pontiacs will be limited edition performance models of standard Pontiacs.

She expects to sell 5,000 Bonneville GXPs, 10,000-15,000 Grand Prix GXPs and 15,000 Grand Am GXPs per year.

Interestingly...she only expects to sell 1,000 Sunfire GXPs/year, due to price sensitivity at that level.

And what makes a GXP a GXP?

Most GXPs will have tire, wheel, suspension and brake enhancements. Each GXP will also have it's own front and rear fascias.
Old 11-18-2002 | 11:29 AM
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Higher output engines, too. Bonneville GXP touts the 4.0 auroa (sp?) engine I believe, Grand Prix GXP is 285 hp supercharged 3.8. Finally the excitment division is really exciting
Old 11-18-2002 | 11:39 AM
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Higher output engines, too. Bonneville GXP touts the 4.0 auroa (sp?) engine I believe, Grand Prix GXP is 285 hp supercharged 3.8. Finally the excitment division is really exciting
I thought the Aurora was bringing the 4.0 to the grave with it. Good to hear that it can live on. Those are great engines.
Old 11-18-2002 | 02:40 PM
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As soon as i read the title of this post the thought crossed my mind.... Ok Pontiac has GXP, Ford has had SVT, do u guys think Chevy will make the "SS" phrase sort of the same thing in a modern sense. I know the SS name plate has always seen an increase of performance at Chevy, but now as we see it on a wider variety of vehicles (trucks, SUVs, and so on.) could it be more of limited edition performance models of standard Chevy’s? You guys see where I'm going with this? It would make sense.

Pontiac GXP=Ford SVT = Chevrolet SS?
Old 11-18-2002 | 04:53 PM
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I may have jumped the gun alittle by saying GXP=SVT.

Although the Boneville will get a V8, the other GXPs may not necessarily get specific powertrains.

SVT, of course re-engineers the whole vehicle to meet their specs.

Specific engine, suspension, brakes, interior, exterior etc.

I don't think GXP will be as comprehensive as SVT.
Old 11-18-2002 | 05:31 PM
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sounds like WS6 to me. bigger wheels, better brakes, stiffer suspension is what WS6 was all about, but it appears they're trying to make it a uniform thing by applying the same moniker on all models. one thing though.. WS6 was about posi too.. oops, next theory.
Old 11-18-2002 | 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by stars1010
As soon as i read the title of this post the thought crossed my mind.... Ok Pontiac has GXP, Ford has had SVT, do u guys think Chevy will make the "SS" phrase sort of the same thing in a modern sense. I know the SS name plate has always seen an increase of performance at Chevy, but now as we see it on a wider variety of vehicles (trucks, SUVs, and so on.) could it be more of limited edition performance models of standard Chevy’s? You guys see where I'm going with this? It would make sense.

Pontiac GXP=Ford SVT = Chevrolet SS?
That's pretty much the game plan.
Old 11-18-2002 | 08:13 PM
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That's pretty much the game plan.
Well, maybe in general terms.
SVT for Ford however, represents it's highest performing, most focused niche performance models.

BUT..........

Will Pontiac's halo car...the GTO...be eclipsed by a GXP? (Not likely)

Will the Corvette team toss out the Z06 emblem for a Corvette SS? (Not a chance!)

SVT represents the pinnacle of Ford performance...... GXP/SS may end up being mere marketing tools for GM.

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Old 11-19-2002 | 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by Z284ever
Well, maybe in general terms.
SVT for Ford however, represents it's highest performing most focused models.

BUT..........

Will Pontiac's halo car...the GTO...be eclipsed by a GXP? (Not likely)

Will the Corvette team toss out the Z06 emblem for a Corvette SS? (Not a chance!)

Those will be the differences between SVT and GXP/SS
Sorry, I meant it in general terms. The SVT name is on Ford's top performers (next is the Lincoln LS, by the way) the way SS will be on Chevy's & GXP will be on Pontiac's, and 'V' over at Cadillac .

The exceptions are, of course, GTO & Corvette.
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Originally posted by guionM

The exceptions are, of course, GTO & Corvette.
And maybe, one more exception, if we ever get a new Camaro.
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And maybe, one more exception, if we ever get a new Camaro.
but wouldn't the top camaro be called an ss (if we get one)
Old 11-19-2002 | 12:52 AM
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but wouldn't the top camaro be called an ss (if we get one)
See:
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...6&pagenumber=1
Old 11-19-2002 | 01:18 AM
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See:
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...6&pagenumber=1
so what does that prove.thats only what people would buy.i would imagine a ss would be more money.
Old 11-19-2002 | 01:24 AM
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so what does that prove.thats only what people would buy.i would imagine a ss would be more money.
Okay, how about this:
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...threadid=34107
Old 11-19-2002 | 01:42 AM
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Originally posted by Z284ever
Okay, how about this:
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...threadid=34107
keyword-was plus this "new" GM wants the top dog to be ss regardless of history or your opinion or mine.



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