Would there be a market for a Corvette XFE?
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You could certainly do an XFE camaro. Just add tall gears, skinny gas mileage oriented tires and maybe a softer tuned PCM with conservative shift points for automagics and other stufff like maybe more PE delay time like some of the trucks have. Add that to the basic V6, or even a 4 popper and i bet you'd get some takers.
A corvette XFE is stupid though, not too many people daily drive corvettes, and those who do probably aren't that worried about gas milage.
A corvette XFE is stupid though, not too many people daily drive corvettes, and those who do probably aren't that worried about gas milage.
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I thought you were going to suggest that they use the DI 3.6 engine. As I read, looking for where you suggested it, I was thinking to myself, it's a bit of a bastardization, but I'll bet it would sell, and I'll bet it would be a riot to drive.
Honestly, that engine would make a 3000lb car pretty darn fast! Plus, with a lighter engine, Corvette could handle even better than it does now!
Is it a bastardization? Yeah, probably, but the original Corvette had a six. I'd get over it.
Honestly, that engine would make a 3000lb car pretty darn fast! Plus, with a lighter engine, Corvette could handle even better than it does now!
Is it a bastardization? Yeah, probably, but the original Corvette had a six. I'd get over it.
#18
It would not be hard at all to spiff up the Vette's green image. The LS3 Corvette is already featured in this month's Road and Track in an article on efficient performance cars.
I'd really like to see an LS3 Vette with all the bells and whistles GM can offer in terms of green technology. Add cylinder deactivation, and if it's possible, scale down the dual-mode hybrid technology from the SUV's (I hope they're already trying to make this happen for other smaller vehicles). Add on the carbon fiber and other light weight bits from the Z06 and ZR1, and you have a really efficient push-rod V8 sports car. I can't imagine a better halo for GM to go along with the Volt. Add to that the fact that a lot of this could trickle down to the Camaro, and you have a win-win situation.
I'd really like to see an LS3 Vette with all the bells and whistles GM can offer in terms of green technology. Add cylinder deactivation, and if it's possible, scale down the dual-mode hybrid technology from the SUV's (I hope they're already trying to make this happen for other smaller vehicles). Add on the carbon fiber and other light weight bits from the Z06 and ZR1, and you have a really efficient push-rod V8 sports car. I can't imagine a better halo for GM to go along with the Volt. Add to that the fact that a lot of this could trickle down to the Camaro, and you have a win-win situation.
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If both of your cars are relative toys with expensive tires and compromises built in then so be it though. I doubt you'd be as enthusiastic about driving the vette if it had hard skinny tires and a lethargic / lazy tune in it.
#21
A dumb idea... ok thanks.
I guess the BMW 650i Coupe is dumb also. Check out the specs on that car...
Or Maybe the Porsche 911 Carrera?
Maybe the Jaguar XK Coupe?
I'd like to list a Mercedes, but I can't decide between the CLK, CL, SLK, or SL? None perform anywhere near what a Corvette does until you step up to the AMG package cars.
However, plenty of people use these different car as daily drivers. Yes, they are expensive, but some of the people who can afford them do care about gas mileage also.
I would also like to include a convertible Corvette "XFE" model. The XFE name is just what the Cobalt is called. A different name would be better, but I don't know what to call it.
What does GM have to compare now? Only the upcoming CTS Coupe and that's a stretch. The XLR is kinda close, but is only available with the folding hardtop. The Camaro is FAR from in the same league.
I guess the BMW 650i Coupe is dumb also. Check out the specs on that car...
- 360hp/360tq 4.8L V8 with Double-VANOS steplessly variable valve timing.
- 18 x 8.0 V-Spoke (Style 248) cast alloy wheels, with 245/45R-18 run-flat all-season tires
- 3814 lbs curbweight
- 15/22-23MPG
- Starting at $76,600 MSRP
Or Maybe the Porsche 911 Carrera?
- 325hp/273tq 3.6L Flat 6 with VarioCam Plus (aka VVT)
- 18" wheels
- 3,075 lbs curbweight
- 18/24-26 MPG
- Starting at $73,500 MSRP
Maybe the Jaguar XK Coupe?
- 300hp/310tq 4.2L V8 with variable cam phasing
- 18x8.5f/9.5r wheels
- 3,671 lbs curbweight
- 16/25 MPG
- Starting at $75,500
I'd like to list a Mercedes, but I can't decide between the CLK, CL, SLK, or SL? None perform anywhere near what a Corvette does until you step up to the AMG package cars.
However, plenty of people use these different car as daily drivers. Yes, they are expensive, but some of the people who can afford them do care about gas mileage also.
I would also like to include a convertible Corvette "XFE" model. The XFE name is just what the Cobalt is called. A different name would be better, but I don't know what to call it.
What does GM have to compare now? Only the upcoming CTS Coupe and that's a stretch. The XLR is kinda close, but is only available with the folding hardtop. The Camaro is FAR from in the same league.
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Yeah, but what of other costs. One of my coworkers used to daily drive a C6, one of the reasons he dumped it was because he got tired of putting new tires on it every year at $1500+ a pop. Granted he drove like a maniac most of the time contributing to the extreme wear, but still. Also factor in the extra depreciation of the extra miles on the car, most people use corvettes as weekend toys only, but if you daily drive it, you don't care about depreciation or maintenance costs.
If both of your cars are relative toys with expensive tires and compromises built in then so be it though. I doubt you'd be as enthusiastic about driving the vette if it had hard skinny tires and a lethargic / lazy tune in it.
If both of your cars are relative toys with expensive tires and compromises built in then so be it though. I doubt you'd be as enthusiastic about driving the vette if it had hard skinny tires and a lethargic / lazy tune in it.
Agreed, a lot of Corvette owners just want to admire their new car in the garage, but I bought mine to drive (and yes, admire). Corvettes have the best resale value of all mass-manufactured cars, but I'm not worried about resale value anyway. I'm not gonna save it for the next guy!
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It would be interesting to see a lightweight Corvette, but for better handling, not for better fuel economy. Take the base LS3 -- maybe slightly enhanced -- and put in the weight saving technologies of the Z06 and ZR1. If the dual mode muffler adds weight, don't put it in.
I wonder how many they'd sell, though? Most Corvette buyers like luxury....
I wonder how many they'd sell, though? Most Corvette buyers like luxury....
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It would be interesting to see a lightweight Corvette, but for better handling, not for better fuel economy. Take the base LS3 -- maybe slightly enhanced -- and put in the weight saving technologies of the Z06 and ZR1. If the dual mode muffler adds weight, don't put it in.
I wonder how many they'd sell, though? Most Corvette buyers like luxury....
I wonder how many they'd sell, though? Most Corvette buyers like luxury....
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I've read that the ZR1 will be using softer springs and swaybars to allow the Magnetic Shocks to work better. Maybe it will be an improvement?
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My dad has a C6. I've driven it plenty. It rides about as nice as my Silverado. And that's with the suspension set to the softest setting. Both are 2005 models. The truck has 22k miles on it and the C6 has 13k. The truck needs tires, and I don't believe the runflats on the Vette will last as long as my truck's tires did.
I've read that the ZR1 will be using softer springs and swaybars to allow the Magnetic Shocks to work better. Maybe it will be an improvement?
I've read that the ZR1 will be using softer springs and swaybars to allow the Magnetic Shocks to work better. Maybe it will be an improvement?
The fact that a tire is a runflat has no effect on its treadwear. You might have heard that the GY Supercar tires on the Z-51 and Z06 wear out quicker than the C6 tires, and that is true. . . because of softer rubber compound in the tread, not because it is a runflat.
The F-55 (magnetic shocks) option has been available for several years as an option, and has been refined enough to use as standard equipment on the ZR1. It will probably become the norm soon on all Corvettes. Since the Corvette is an evolutionary platform, yes, I would consider it an improvement. Why bother, otherwise?
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