I firmly believe innocent until proven guilty... if NOSFED doesent provide adequate pics of the "damage", then there is no issue here regarding rustys rep.

 

It's obvious at this point that Rusty isn't going to stand behind the part he sold me, and I think that says everything. I don't think I need to engage in a pissing match with him. I'll try and get some pictures this weekend so everybody can see what a junk cam looks like. I'll even drop it off at my engine builder this week and have him tell me that it's junk. I can't even have it reground because the bearing surfaces are gouged badly enough that they catch a finger nail when dragged across.

In my earlier posts, I was being generous in my assesment of the situation in the hopes Rusty would take his junk cam back and keep his reputation intact.

The fact is, this cam is junk. Anybody who knows anything about cams would have taken one look at this thing and known that. There are two possibilities: that Rusty is so ignorant about cams that he didn't know they weren't supposed to have ruts in the ramps and pits in the base circle, or that he knowingly sold me a junk part. He claims in his PMs to be knowledgeable in the subject. I believe he is at least knowledgeable enough to know that what he sold me is junk. That explains why he was so defensive in his PMs.

At this point I'm just going to order a new cam from a reputable vendor and move on. Rusty, you did it big guy. You scammed an honest, hard working guy out of $150. Congratulations.

Since I'm not unscrupulous and I won't sell somebody else some junk, I'll just hang on to this thing. It might come in handy one day.

 

I have a job and sometimes it's not possible for me to be on the internet. Dealing with this problem just isn't my number one priority.

I never said that all the lobes were bad, I said several of them are. After my engine builder sees this and declares it junk, I might send it to a board member for his inspection. Maybe Aggie will take a look at it since he is replying here. We'll see whether he would run it in his engine or sell it to anybody else to run in theirs. Better yet, maybe he can write up an ad that he would use if here were selling this part.

 

we should have a buyer feedback as well....

 

Nosfed, Do it.

Whats it gonna cost you? Another 15$ shipping, and it will give everyone an honest opinion that will either

A) Save a reputation
B) Prevent someone else from getting screwed.

I know if I could feel it with my fingernail, I would be junking it. If its just the lobes, it COULD be ground down, but even that is a iffy subject. What it would cost, by the time you factor that into what you already paid, you mind as well get a new cam. And especially if you can feel it on the bearing surfaces. That is JUNK if you can feel it on there with the fingernail.

 

And if Aggie doesnt want to, PM me, I'll look it over, and have a few mechanics, machinists, and builders give me thier opinions I can post.

 

Look again at what I said in my original post and not what others have interpreted my words to be. I assure you that what I posted is 100% accurate. A friend is sitting here beside me right now who knows very little about engines. I showed him the cam and he felt the ridges and he agreed that they exist.

I didn't say that every lobe was damaged, because a couple are fine. However, several do have ruts in them and a few have significant divets in them. There is no way I would put this in my motor.

I'll send this to Aggie if he's interested. I'd like to have it back, just in case. This Rusty guy sells parts on a couple other boards as well and if me sinking another $10 into this losing venture will save somebody else from being ripped off, it's money well spent.

 

I might take you up on the offer, but aggie is closer so it will save on shipping, so I'll see if he's interested first .

 

Used camshaft, any internal engine part for that matter, is an iffy buy sight unseen unless you know the person. Bought my cam used but from a close friend.

Hope it works out.

 

post the pics of all 16 lobes case closed the argument is if its junk and a machinest cant do anything with it now not even if it was severely damaged as he sent me PM regarding cam as if it was a paper weight i guess you put down nearly 400rwhp on a PITTED CAM, geesh i agree with darkhorse though about used internal motor pieces....

never at one time did NOSFED ask me for pics of cam PICS FOR A CAM hes wasting his $155 on and RISKING his built motor....NOSFED were you expecting to get a brand new cam when ad stated it was USED,,,,aw man,,,if you were so picky in building engines why is it you buy a used CAM for a new BUILT MOTOR..... i can understand a small heads and cam job but for a built motor....
WHAT IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME SOMEONE WAS HOPING FOR SOMETHING THAT WASNT for $155 you get a used cam with normal wear if you wanted a spotless cam the you shoukld have wasted the $250 on a new cam AS YOU DID WITH ALL YOUR PARTS PUT INTO ALLEGED BUILT MOTOR....but thats not the argumnet here you want me to send you $155 back for your incompetence on not asking for more detailed pics....

 

if you want to keep it going go on ahead,i am not going anywhere as stated before.....cam WAS POLISHED AND HAD CAM PIN CUT TO .620 LENGTH before it was sent out to you so i have no idea how you end up with a am with so much damage...i have sold so many other parts up on here, done trades up on here, and bought many products USED from people on here and i know that there is no excuse for naivnes on the internet.....i sold you a cam that you thought to be new before ever seeing pics, you assumed the cam would be NEW....and it was not it was used.....send cam to as many people as you want, how am i supposed to be secure with knowing this cam has been all over the board and i still havent seen pics.....

3 pages and i would have started this THREAD OFF WITH PICS,case closed if you were serious about such wear this would have been resolved on the 1st or 2nd post.....b.s......

and Fuc$$ed up my REp now to sell my parts CHEAP and try to give others good deals up on this board,,,,always offer pics and never once sold something unusable.

 

ask mean95z i traded my 52mm t/b for an slp convertor USED, this was a trade i sent out my 52mm t/b and payed shipping waited till scott recv'd then he sent out t/c after i sent out $40 for shipping charge for torque convertor.

this whole deal was done all by word pics off t/b were exchanged like 10-15 detailed. i didnt know scott but he trusted in me that i would pay for all shipping charges and i did.....
never did a deal like this i could have taken off and not payed for shipping t/c but i did not.

 

RuSSty ~ Did you ever think its a little ****ed up though not to say in the description anything other than its used? If your not saying it has ridges on it that an be felt, its to be assumed that they are not there.

Really though, we do need pics to help justify things. You don't want to ruin his reputation over nothing. Post the pics and let others decide for themselves. RuSSty has sold alot of stuff on here and I dont think I ever heard anything bad before? Try to get the pics up asap to get this over with for both parties.

 

i dont mind taking a look at it.

opnly pics of the damaged ones are needed. whats the point in posting pics of the lobes that are fine. the issue is the damane not the good lobes.

for $155 you get a used cam with normal wear .........but thats not the argumnet here you want me to send you $155 back for your incompetence on not asking for more detailed pics....

i think the arguement here is does the cam have normal wear or not. the fact that he didnt ask for pics isnt that important imo.

if someone sold me somthgin and said it had normal wear and when I got it i saw very obvious damage i would be upset too. i think that is the issue, not him beiing incompetent for not asking for pics.

Im not saying that is what happened, thats just an example.

brook

 

^ Exactly